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Jim Pierce Sets The Record Straight To Andrew Miller

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For all talk of her dad, it was Mary Pierce’s brother who get her ready to take Paris, just as it was Capriati’s brother who prepared Capriati to take Paris. If her father has recovered that’s great. He was really damaging – this is beyond dispute. If they’ve moved beyond this, fantastic. Mary’s a great champion who was better than Sabatini, and I loved Sabatini’s play. Only when Justine Henin came along did I see as captivating a one hander (not to take away from Conchita). Pierce definitely is a hall of famer. –Andrew Miller comment to this article I wrote on April 26, “Mary Pierce, The Forgotten Champion”…

There was Mary Pierce, sitting in the last row at the Sarasota Open, watching Ivo Karlovic play Denys Molchanov, with a female companion.

For a few games, I sat down the same row about 20 feet to her right, there was no one between us. In the time I was there, exactly one person approached and asked her for an autograph. Perhaps Pierce was simply not recognized, perhaps nobody remembers the Montreal born blonde beauty who won two major titles.

Yes, Pierce won TWO major titles.

In 1995 in the finals of the Australia Open, Pierce, the #4 seed, crushed #1 seed Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario 63 62, after blitzing Conchita Martinez 61 62 in the semi.

Then in 2000, playing for the French flag, Pierce crushed Conchita again in the French Open final 62 75.

Pierce also was a finalist in four other major finals – 2005 US Open, 2005 Roland Garros, 94 Roland Garros, 97 Australian. She also won a major doubles and mixed doubles title. She won 18 singles titles in all, ten in doubles.

She played from 1993-2006, reaching #3 in the world in 1995.

This was a great champion in a very difficult era, with more major titles than Michael Chang, Gabriela Sabatini, who both have been enshrined into the Newport Hall of Fame.

Talk about a great champion who has been forgotten and slipped through the cracks.

Mary Pierce deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

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Jim Pierce’s rebuttal to Tennis-prose.com…

I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THE PERSON “” ANDREW MILLER “”WHO KNOWS ZERO , “” NOTHING “” OF WHAT
HE IS BLABBERING ABOUT , WHO WROTE ON APRIL 28,2013 AR 10:47A.M. , WHEREIN HE STATED THAT “” FOR ALL TALK OF HER DAD “”BY THE WAY I AM MARY PIERCE’S FATHER “” FRENCH TENNIS PLAYER , RETIRED , ANDREW MILLER WROTE THAT IT WAS MARY PIERCE’S BROTHER DAVID WHO GOT HER READY TO TAKE PARIS ,,,,,,, THAT IS AN OUT AND OUT LIE ,,,,, I TRAINED MY DAUGHTER MARY PIERCE FOR 2 AND 1/2 MONTHS JUST BEFORE THE FRENCH OPEN , JUST THE WEEK BEFORE SHE WENT TO INDIAN WELLS CALIF. TO INDIAN WELLS IN YEAR 2000 WHERE SHE TRASHED , DESTROYED SERENA WILLIAMS 6-2- 6-1 I DO BELIEVE ,ITS EASY TO LOOK UP ,,,,,, I TOLD MARY TO BRING MY SON DAVID FROM ENGLAND SO HE COULD GO ON THE TOUR AND KEEP HER TIMING , MARY FIRST CALLED ME FROM JAPAN IN JAN. 2000 AND SAID THAT I MUST TRAIN HER AGAIN AS SHE HAD LOST TO SOME TIM BUCK 2 PLAYER IN AUSTRALIA , I TOLD HER TO COME HERE IN BRADENTON FLA. AND DO “” OUR “” TRAINING , SHE CAME HERE WITH ROBERTO ALOMAR , NICK GAVE US A COURT IN THE BACK OF IMG TENNIS CENTER , AND I WAS THE ONE ON THE COURT DOING THE TELLIN , MIXING THE RECIPE, USING MY WIFE’S NEPHEW PHILIP HORYNA FROM ZURICH SWISS. TO BE THE SPARRING PARTNER ON THE FOREHAND AND I WOULD INVITE SOME OF THE WANNA BE PROS “” MEN ONLY “” TO COME BE THE BACKHAND SPARRING PARTNER , MARY WOULD BURN THEM INTO THE GROUNG ONE AT A TIME , WHEN SHE FIRST ARRIVED SHE WAS 15 POUNDS OVERWEIGHT , THE FIRST WEEK SHE LOST 7 AND 1/2 POUNDS , I WAS THE DRIVING FOECE AS I ALWAYS HAD BEEN , THIS IS EASILY VERIFIED BY NICK BOLLETTIERI , WHO LET US USE THE COURT , AND NICK WAS “” NOT “” INVOLVED 1 MINUTW , HE NEVER BOTHERED US , HE NEVER CAME ON THE COURT , NEITHER DID MY SON DAVID , AFTER I HAD PUT MARY IN “” SUPREME “” CONDITION , IN AGASSI CONDITION, WE WENT TO MIAMI WHERE WE MET MY SON DAVID , WHEN MARY FIRST CAME BACK TO DO “” MY “” TRAINING SHE COULD NOT RUN SIDE TO SIDE FOR 1 MINUTE , AFTER OUR TRAINING SHE COULD RUN “” 15 “” MINUTES SIDE TO SIDE WITHOUT STOPPING ,FROM DOUBLES ALLEY TO DOUBLES ALLEY ,AFTER MARY WON THE FRENCH OPEN “” SINGLES AND DOUBLES , NICK BOLLETTIERI CAME UP TO ME AND HE SAID , “” WHEN I SAW MARY WORKING WITH YOU I KNEW SHE WOULD BE ALRIGHT ,,,, GAME, SET , MATCH , MY AD , ANDREW MILLER YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT WHAT YOU WRITE , WHERE DO PEOPLE LIKE YOU WRITE AND DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT , BYE THE BYE , IN 2005 WHEN MARY HAD ANOTHER GREAT YEAR SHE CALLED ME FROM BELGIUM AND SAID DADDY I WANT TO PLAY GOOD AGAIN , I TOLD HER TO COME HERE & DO “” OUR “” TRAINING , TRAINING THAT I LEARNED FROM THE WORLDS GREATEST COACH EVER , “” MISTER HARRY HOPMAN “” AND ALVARO BETANCUR MARYS FIRST COACH AND THE WORLDS FINEST LIVING TENNIS COACH TODAY IN MY OPINION , I PATTERENED MARY AFTER G. VILAS ,BORIS BECKER , IVAN LENDL , SO ANDREW MILLER SHUT YOUR MOUTH , JIM PIERCE , FATHER OF MARY PIERCE , WHO WENT TO FRANCE TO PLAY UNDER THE FRENCH FLAG BECAUSE MY U.S.A. DOES NOT HELP ITS ATHLETES , BUY THEY WILL GIVE THOSE SCHOLORSHIPS OUT LIKE CANDY BARS TO THE RUSSIANS AND OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES , FORGIVE MY MISSPELLED WORDS , NO PROOF READING , JIM PIERCE

MY DAUGHTER MARY PIERCE SHOULD OF WON EASILY AT LEAST 10 OR MORE GRAND SLAMS , BUT EVERYTIME I PUT HER BACK INTO SHAPE SHE WOULD TAKE JUST ABOUT ANYBODY INTO HER CAMP AND GO HER MERRY WAY FOR A WHILE , , AND SOONER THAN LATER I WOULD HAVE TO REPAIR HER AGAIN , MUCH TO MY SORROW MARY GOT SOME BAD ADVICE ALONG THE WAY , AND FOR THE RECORD I “” WAS NOT “” NEVER “” ABUSIVE TO MY DAUGHTER MARY PIERCE , MY DAUGHTER NEVER HAD A SPANKING IN HER LIFE ,AND I AM WAITING FOR HER TO CORRECT THAT , SHE NEEDS TO HOLD A PRESS CONFERENCE , AND I LEARNED LONG AGO , WHEN I SAY SOMETHING I AM READY TO TAKE A LIE DETECTOR TEST TO BACK UP MY STATEMENTS, NEITHER DID MY SON DAVID EVER HAVE A SPANKING , I WAS VERY TOUGH IN TRAINING ON THE COURT TO MAKE HE VERY STRONG PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY , I WILL TAKE ANY WOMENS TOP 50. 60 , 70, 80 , 90, 100 TENNIS PLAYER IN “” DECENT SHAPE WITH A DECENY FOREHAND , DECENT 2 HANDED BACK HAND , DECENT SERVE , DECENT PHYSICAL FRAME TO BUILD ON, “” NOTICE I SAID DECENT EVERYTHING “” I WILL SUPPLY THE REST , AND I WILL TRAIN THAT PLAYER IN 2 1/2 MONTHS TO BE A DOMINATING PLAYER ABLE TO BEAT HER WAY INTO THE YOP 20 AND THEN WORK HERSELF DEEPER INTO THE RANKINGS , GUARENTEED , ALL I ASK IS THEY BRING THE SUITCASE WITH THE MONEY, UP FRONT , PARENTS ARE WELCOME TO WATCH , LOTS OF COACHES DON’T WANT YOU TO WATCH THEIR TRAINING BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT YOU TO SEE WHAT THEY DO NOT KNOW , BRING ME THAT PLAYER , MAKE ME EAT MY WORDS , JIM PIERCE

10 comments

  • Scoop Malinowski · June 23, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    Thank you Jim Pierce for the clarifications. Hope to see you in Newport for Mary’s belated Hall of Fame induction in the next few years. And thank you for creating a great champion for the sport. I will never forget some of Mary’s matches especially the blowout of Sanchez Vicario in Paris, which was a classic display of tennis brilliance and the joy of playing amazing tennis.

  • Dan markowitz · June 23, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    Jim Pierce is a Tennis-Prise.com reader and commentor! Who next, Stefano Capriati? I know Spadea said that Jim Pierce helped him tremendously and had so much passion. Jim, if you’re willing to comment further, why do you think Spadea never got higher in the rankings than No. 18. What was his roadblock?

  • Andrew Miller · June 23, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    No skin off my back, I don’t think I wrote anything so controversial, and it’s just a little bit unnerving to have someone respond to vehemently to a small note on a tennis web site, especially to someone who Mr. Pierce considers “a nobody”, which is fine with me – apparently I am a nobody who deserves a page long explanation. I hope other players respond to my comments by playing, let’s say, harder at Wimbledon or something like that. I am not a journalist – I am a mere fan and I have seen Mary play in person, and she certainly won all of our hearts, and there’s no reason for me to belittle the obviously enormous contribution of her family, especially her father. Mr. Pierce is welcome to read also how I believe Mary belongs in the hall of fame. But let’s continue here.

    Here’s what Mary said in September 2005, which is pretty great and points to a pretty amazing thing. Coming from a family myself that has had some fairly brutal events (not sure how many other people have seen their families break apart – no doubt many, but let’s just say it’s excruciating and leave it at that), I am always glad to see things work out for people.

    September 2005:
    Q. We’ve heard that you’ve reconciled with your father. Is that something that was important to you, as well?

    MARY PIERCE: Very important to me. I mean, that’s been years now. It’s nothing new. You know, that’s just very, very important. I think, you know, after my relationship with God, then comes my family, and then my friends. You know, it’s such an important thing in life. It just creates such a balance. You know, those relationships I think in life is what it’s all about.

    Q. What is it like to have him back watching you practice? You spoke the other day about your brother being there, Nick coming on court as an adviser?

    MARY PIERCE: It’s fun. He’s funny. He always comes and laughs and jokes and tells jokes, tells stories. Just loves to watch me play and practice. You know, just always telling me how good I am, how amazing it is what I do every day, to be able to do it, to be training as hard as I do. Yeah, it’s just nice.

    Nice statement from Mary and a very nice acknowledgement of Mr. Pierce’s role.

    September 2004, Sports Illustrated, L. Jon Wertheim:

    “For all the drama and melodrama that have visited her career, Pierce has always been among the sport’s best pure ball strikers. She has reunited with her younger brother, David–who coached her in 2000–and is confident that she still has a few lines to add to her tennis dossier.”

    Now that says that David coached her in 2000.

    June 2010, Los Angeles Times, Lisa Dillon before the French Open final

    “Pierce, who leads the series against Martinez, 10-6, has talked about the benefit of being coached by her brother David, and has been open about her renewed faith in God. She wondered how the French public would treat her when things got difficult and was relieved to receive support.

    “It is not at all a tournament like any other,” Pierce said. “It is impossible [to compare]. I’m playing here in France. The public is behind me. My family is watching me. My friends are watching me. It is something exceptional for me.”

    Now that also says that Mary was coached by David.

    And what about June 11, 2000 – when Mary won it, what did she say then?

    Los Angeles Times

    “As recently as last year, Pierce’s strategy seemed to be to hit the ball harder and harder. If that didn’t work, she tried to hit it even harder. Sometimes it worked. She had two match points against Lindsay Davenport at the U.S. Open last year before succumbing in the quarterfinals.

    Other times, her strategy exploded.

    Which is why she reached out to her younger brother, David, days before a hard-court tournament in Scottsdale, Ariz., last winter. She called him in London and asked him to coach her.

    “She called me in my apartment and asked me if I would like to come to Arizona, which was starting that Monday. It was a Friday,” David Pierce said, smiling. “She asked me if I would like to give it a try.

    “In life it takes a while, we’re both young. I’m only 24. It takes a long time to get to know yourself, to become an adult. Especially to coach somebody. It took a little bit of time before we put ourselves together.”

    Said Pierce: “He’s been fantastic. To put up with me every day, taking care of me. He’s very patient and understanding. We get along great. We have a lot of fun.

    “There’s nothing better than having your own brother there with you, supporting you, that you can trust, have confidence in, that loves you and just wants the best for you.”

    His influence has been obvious. Pierce used the whole court against Martinez, pulling her wide with short, angled ground strokes. The old Pierce never would have dreamed of using a drop shot.

    “Her game has changed a lot because she is using the court a lot better,” Durr said. “Before she was trying to hit the ball as hard as possible, not building up the point. She’s more technical on the court. I have the impression she watches her opponent a lot better. Before it was herself, her own game and she was not taking care of her opponent.”

    Yet again, this claims that Mary was coached by David during the French Open final.

    So obviously, Mr. Pierce is a great coach – he knows how to train players. Given Mary’s technical excellence, and obviously that of son David, he is indeed a fine teacher of the game. But when it comes to dealing with people who “know nothing” (even when they prove that maybe they know something? I mean check the record here – the scoreboard says that David Pierce coached Mary to the title, right?) then he deliberately goes after a “nothing” like me.

    Sorry, I earned an apology on this one. Mr. Pierce was barred from tennis tournaments for real reasons relating to his relationship with people who werent related, and that affects people. He certainly knows how to make other people feel bad, even when they apparently did nothing wrong (and if they are nothing, maybe Mr. Pierce should rethink that one too, maybe they are something and know something?). As Maya Angelou once said, and you can take this for what it’s worth Pierce,

    “I’ve learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.”

  • Marion Bartoli,Fans (Nourredine) · June 24, 2013 at 1:43 am

    Scoop thank you for the article, BRAVO JIM PIERCE. I know Mary as my own mother, I followed from 1992 to 2006!
    This is my best champion, you can add the two winners lost the Masters finals (against Novotna and against Mauresmo). I met Mary several times, and each time she is an extraordinary woman, simple, pious, beautiful. It could be No. 1 in the world and win more Grand Slam. Yes, she deserves the hall of fame as the Grevin museum in Paris (status wax) because Mauresmo is why not Mary??

    I often fought against the French federation as Mary was when she won French and américiane when she lost, but the conclusion is simple: this is the last French to win Roland Garros in 2000 (singles and doubles with Hingis) 33 Françoise Durr years after the last winning. We are not near a French win again, I do not even think of my life! and I’m almost 37 years, on November 8.

    I know that Jim has done for his daughter (big Respect), but the media sometimes still prefers talking past between father and daughter problems!

    Nourredine

  • Dan markowitz · June 24, 2013 at 7:01 am

    You don’t tug on Superman’s cape. You don’t spit into the wind. You don’t pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger and you don’t mess around with Andrew.

  • Scoop Malinowski · June 24, 2013 at 8:04 am

    Andrew you might get the post of the year award with this one ) I only crossed paths with David once, just bumped into him in the media center at the US Open once, we were both collecting player interview transcripts. Nice guy for sure, we ust shared polite hellos, I got a good vibe from him. Wish I couldve thought of something to say to talk a bit to get a guage of if he really was a coach to Mary or more of a keep-it-in-the-family type situation. It’s hard to guage coach/player dynamics. Like do you think Severin Luthi really brings anything tactic or technique wise to his pal Roger? Like Jim Courier says, some elite coaches are really best at support and/or “motivating.”

  • Andrew Miller · June 24, 2013 at 8:44 am

    Hi everyone, no doubt Mr. Pierce knows tennis inside out, and his omission from a lot of reporting from the past is no doubt unfair – even comments from no-nothings like me. But I won’t put up with bullying – that’s where I think we all draw the invisible line in the sand. It’s mis-directed and abuse comes in more than one form, and verbal is one of them (just a reminder).

    I’m sure Mr. Pierce’s “anger” was directed at the line, from me and now erroneous, that the brother “prepared Mary” to take the French, where in reading Pierce’s response it’s clear Mr. Pierce played a huge role in preparation – from what he writes he made sure Mary was absolutely prepared. So – Mr. Pierce certainly revealed more of the story behind how Mary arrived to Paris ready in the year 2000, and for some time now here on TP as a commenter (know nothing) I’ve written that I think it takes a great support team for a player to win – it’s not just them vs. the elements, it’s a player’s support team – their family, their coach (if they are not family), their trainer, their friends, etc. You see the Djokovics, the Agassis, Blakes, Nadals, etc – they all have a group of people in the background doing everything so that the player has the best chance every tournament (or at least at some of the big ones). No player wins alone.

    So that would be my bad in terms of the preparation comment I made – when Mr. Pierce knows the hard work that he put into ensuring his daughter had a more than good chance to take Paris in 2000. It’s probably best to refer back to L. Jon Wertheim’s June 19, 2000 article in Sports Illustrated to match up all the roles. Wertheim makes two things clear: Mr. Pierce prepared his daughter (probably on the technical side and the stamina side) and her brother David Pierce coached her to the title. It’s nice to see when teamwork works out (I am a huge fan).

    Mr. Pierce and Training in 2000:

    “They had a rapprochement of sorts in February when she asked him to come to her house, in Bradenton, Fla., and help her train. Mary won’t discuss the relationship with reporters, but she thanked Jim in her winner’s speech in Paris. On the other hand, she has yet to ask the WTA tour to relax the rule requiring Jim to submit a written notice before he attends a tournament. “She doesn’t want to cut him off,” says a source close to Mary, “but the relationship will be on her terms.”

    Mary Pierce’s relationship with Brother:

    Pierce’s recent ascent also coincides with her having retained her 24-year-old brother, David, as a coach. On Feb. 25 David was teaching tennis at a club in London when Mary called and asked him to work with her. Three days later he was with her at a tournament in Scottsdale, Ariz. No glorified gofer, David takes his duties seriously. At the Indian Wells event in California in March, Mary won her first match 6-1, 6-3. David, though, was dissatisfied with her play and ordered her back on the court for a hitting session. “He may be the toughest coach I’ve ever had,” said Mary in Paris, “but that’s what I needed. What happened here is the result of hard work.”

    So we’ll do this – I’ll say that Mr. Pierce was absolutely a huge factor in preparing his daughter to take Paris – that’s on the record and the media didn’t get it wrong either (let’s hear it for reporters like L. Jon Wertheim who get to the heart of tennis and its complexities). And we’ll acknowledge that the coach here was her brother, who provided something else that his daughter needed to take the title. And that too is on the record and as his daughter has said, David Pierce played an enormous role.

    There’s room enough for the Pierce family (perhaps others) in the story of Mary Pierce’s triumph, and a huge role in Mary Pierce doing all of the work. But Mr. Pierce has got to see something in what he says – he’s more than a little insecure and there may be a reason that players who could benefit would not think of working with him, based on how he treats other people. I think I’m big enough to say when I’m wrong, and you have it recorded here on Tennis-Prose. So if Mr. Pierce does so likewise, that would be pretty impressive.

    However, I don’t expect it – because he’s already stated how and what he considers me (which is fine, again – I’m just a tennis fan). And I don’t expect it anyways, because that’s, what like Uncle Toni responding to my pure speculation that he may have modeled Nadal’s game in part on Marcelo Rios (because no one played tennis like Rios, and Nadal being a lefty needed). Or Klahn responding to my hunch that with top conditioning and better training he’d be something special for U.S. tennis, or however other many stupid things I’ve written. For what it’s worth, I think we have a lot of fun at Tennis-Prose. This one is certainly memorable.

  • Scoop Malinowski · June 24, 2013 at 9:26 am

    Well done Andrew, you’re a legend. I think if Jim reads what you write here, he may change your nickname from Know nothing to Knowitall. That was truly impressive. Your memory is sharp and your research abilities tremendous. I think Jim will admire the way you defend your positions. BTW, here is what Uncle Toni said when I asked him if he patterned young Rafa’s game after Rios: Toni Nadal (Coach): “His game was spectacular game. He played extremely good. (Was he an inspiration. model, as a lefty, in developing Rafael?) No. Inspiration for me was people who are very thoughtful and correct when they’re on the court. Rios was a very good, talented player. But he is not my player, not my dream model player. Rios was very good. I spoke with all the people who play with him, they say he has a very good talent. But truth, I like other kind of players. (Like who?) Many. Like Federer. Like Borg. Like Santana. Many, many players.”

    Here is what Rafa said when I asked him for his memories of Rios: Rafael Nadal (ATP Player): “Sorry, but I wasn’t on the Tour when he was on the Tour. If I say something about Rios, I gonna say some lies. Because I didn’t remember him or his playing style. So is better not say anything.”

  • Andrew Miller · June 25, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    Scoop, interesting Uncle Toni also spoke with other players apparently about Rios’ game. Seems like a little bit of a slip up there that suggests that a little bit of Nadal’s game relates back to Chilean superstar, even if Uncle Toni wanted to make sure that Nadal was a gentleman and nothing like the austere playmaker.

  • Scoop Malinowski · June 25, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    Agree Andrew, if you studied tennis back then, you had to study Rios, especially since he was a lefty just like young Rafa. Maybe Uncle Toni does not feel right giving any kind of credit to Rios given the bad rep he had with some of the Spanish players.

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