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The Agony of the Zverev Brothers

Serena and Venus are okay with competing against each other. They have done it enough times as professionals and their sisterhood is still intact. There were no public explosions or controversies.

The Melzers, Harrisons, Granollers are also still examples of family tennis dueling, brotherly love.

But the agony of the Zverev brothers playing each other seems to be a bit more acute, as younger brother Alexander told me a couple of years ago at the Citi Open when I asked his most painful moment of his career.

“The worst experience of my career was playing my brother (Mischa). You have to win the point…but then you’re playing your brother and you don’t want to win,” he said.

Fortunately for the Zverevs, they’ve only had to play twice so far, first at a Futures second round of qualifying in Dallas in 2012 and then the first round of qualifying at Houston in 2014 (both won by older brother). Today in Washington at Citi Open they will meet as pros for the third time.

When they previously played in Texas, the Zverev brothers, both were unproven in the ATP and desperate to make their marks. Alex was 15 and 17, Mischa was 24 and 26.  When you’re young and unaccomplished, every match is important. Mischa won both, 60 61 in Dallas and 75 46 32 (ret) in Houston.

Today, the Zverev brothers have to do it again, on center court at the Citi Open. A lot has changed since their last meeting four years ago. Now Alex is 21 and ranked 3 in the world, Mischa is 30 (turns 31 in three weeks) and ranked 42.

Alex is the defending champion with points to defend. Mischa is trying to improve his ranking  to where it was a year ago – 25 in the world.

Playing tennis is usually a great joy for all players but today in Washington there won’t be any joy or happiness when brothers Alex and Mischa pull out there Head racquets to do battle. In Alex’s own words, it will be the “worst experience” of his career.

 

 

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87 comments

  • Hartt · August 3, 2018 at 6:53 am

    I couldn’t see the interview, but the Zverev brothers talked about how much they’d enjoyed playing against each other and hoped to do it again. It may depend on how long Mischa continues to play, he isn’t a spring chicken anymore. But then, he lost so much time because of injuries that he doesn’t have as much actual playing time as many guys his age.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 3, 2018 at 9:19 am

    hartt, things have obviously changed, but two years ago it was agony and torture for the brothers to play. I guess when players get to the top 50 they can afford to not get overstressed by certain matches and just play them for fun or even like practice sets.

  • Dan Markowitz · August 3, 2018 at 5:42 pm

    Is it just me or does Sasha bother other people as well? I used to find the guy totally obnoxious and conceited when he was a teen. I remember watching him in the USO qualis playing Dodig on a packed side court, and what a crybaby Zverev was. He contested almost every call and he’d lift the hem of his shirt up like five times a game to show his belly.

    Zverev’s attitude has improved, but he’s still an annoying dude. Playing Kei today, he shouts out almost constantly, “Come on. Let’s go!” What is this junior tennis? And secondly, the guy’s Russian/German, I know he trains in the states a lot, but shout something out in Russian/German. Don’t act like you’re so cool you shout out lamentations in English.

    The dude has reached one slam quarterfinals, but he acts like he’s the greatest player in the world. He’s got the Mr. T gold chain starter kit around his neck. I’ve seen players have one or two gold chains around their necks–actually I haven’t seen many with more than one–Sasha’s got three. He wins the second set against Kei 5-1 and on the first point in the third set, he misses a return long and starts barking to his box.

    What’s that!? It’s the first point of the third set. If you miss a shot, you don’t have to act like you just got sent up road for five years in federal prison. I can’t stand that. No top pro would react that way. I vote Zverev at 21 the most obnoxious pro out there. If my son acted like that in one of his junior matches I’d tell to be quiet and focus on the next point. It’s ridiculous.

  • Hartt · August 3, 2018 at 6:26 pm

    No, Sascha does not bother me. He turned 21 in April, and is light years ahead of the other youngsters. He has won 8 tournaments, including 3 Masters, and became the world No. 3 last November. Yes, he could have better results in the Slams, but I think that will start to come together soon.

    As far as yelling out in English, he is fluent in English. There is no reason he shouldn’t use it, especially when in the States, when that is the language he is hearing all around him. I don’t think he is trying to be cool, it just comes naturally to him.

    The pulling his shirt up does get tiresome, but I think it is a nervous tic, just like those of Rafa. He probably does it unconsciously.

    As far as being the most obnoxious pro out there, he has a long way to go to match Paire’s tantrums, Fogini wanting to “step outside” with an ump, Kyrgios tanking, or Medvedev’s behaviour towards ump Alves, including throwing coins at her chair, which resulted in a $14,500 fine.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 3, 2018 at 10:49 pm

    I like the way Zverev competes and behaves on court, nothing irritating at all. Dan you seem hyper sensitive about Zverev for some reason, he’s a kid who has dedicated his entire life to the sport and he wants to win majors and be no. 1 and he’s on the cusp. No. 3 in the world is an incredible achievement, it’s where Djokovic was lodged for four straight years before he finally became world no. 1. Djokovic got to 3 at age 20 so Zverev is on a good pace to match Djokovic eventually.

  • Tom Sawyer · August 4, 2018 at 12:43 am

    I’m with Dan, mostly, and was thinking the same thing about yelling in english seems contrived. I respect Sasha and what he has accomplished and he’s gonna have a great career, but he annoys the crap out of me too. I never find myself pulling for him no matter who he is playing. I like Thiem but am selling stock in him and buying shares of Tsitsipas, who is backing up a solid clay court season w a good tourney on hard courts.

  • Duke Carnoustie · August 4, 2018 at 12:50 am

    I think Sascha is great on court. I watched the match and he wasn’t disrespectful at all. Really positive attitude. Did you watch the press conference with his brother? Great question was what each taught the other. Mischa said that he has too negative an attitude and Sascha is always telling him he is playing well and helps his confidence. Don’t forget Sascha had a ball in his crib and a racket by age 2. Greatness is his destiny and he knows it.

    Doubles match in TOR to watch is FAA/Shapo taking on SW19 finalists Ando and Djoker.

    Another doubles team is DelPo/Fognini – the Cabos finalists.

    Found it odd that a seasoned doubles player like Dodig would take on Kyrgios as a partner.

    My pick to win it? Bryan and Jack Sock, of course.

  • catherine · August 4, 2018 at 2:12 am

    Can’t see the big problem with Sascha. I’ve seen him play a bit. He’s young and full of energy and ambition and maybe arrogance and all that bubbles over – he’ll calm down. I don’t sense any nastiness in him.

    As far a yelling in English goes, as Hartt says, he’s fluent in English, as you can tell from press interviews. I also noticed when he was talking at Hopman Cup, his English is as good as Petko’s and he made Angie sound like a beginner. He’s obviously able to switch languages easily. Probably doesn’t even think about it. When in Rome….

  • Dan Markowitz · August 4, 2018 at 3:09 am

    Alright, if nobody finds him weird and annoying, but Tom and me, Zverev is also a strange and unsettling dude. His brother is a much more handsome and chill guy. Sasha’s eyes look like a serio-killer’s eyes. I’m not kidding, if the tennis doesn’t work out he can go to Hollywood and get movie roles as the disturbed young man who strangled female acquaintances. He just looks weird. It’s like when we were kids and a guy would bring his younger brother around who looked like Sasha and after a while you had to tell him to stop bringing the kid around because he just was psycho-looking and made everyone feel uneasy or at least Tom and me.

    What’s with DC starting Murray match at midnight and Murray defaulting because of “fatigue?” And then pulling out of Toronto because of fatigue? It was a three set match. I know it ended at 3 am, but after a couple of day’s rest a highly-trained athlete isn’t ready to go in the next tourney? I kind of like it because it makes me figure if Murraycwas taking PED’s this fatigue wouldn’t be a problem.

  • Hartt · August 4, 2018 at 4:27 am

    Wow, Dan, you really don’t like Sascha. A “serio-killer’s eyes”? Actually, when you see them side by side, the brothers have the exact same blue eyes. And, as Catherine said, there doesn’t seem to be any nastiness in him.

    In terms of personality Mischa is one of my favourite players. He comes across as thoughtful, and as Wertheim put it, “rational.” And kind – he was even sympathetic towards Kyrgios when Nick tanked their match in Shanghai. (As well as grateful for the win.) It’s interesting that he gives Sascha so much credit for encouraging him, because his younger brother was so positive when Mischa was dealing with the injuries.

    And I like the way Sascha gives his mother credit for his excellent backhand and for developing his game until he was about 13 or 14.

  • Chazz · August 4, 2018 at 8:22 am

    I don’t have a strong opinion either way about the younger Zverev, don’t love him or hate him, but Dan your observations are hilarious. How do you come up with this stuff?

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 4, 2018 at 9:06 am

    Regarding this bizarre attack on Zverev let me interject a quotation: “We don’t see things as they are, we see things as WE ARE.” – Anais Nin 🙂 And let me remind that Zverev is one one hundredth as annoying as young McEnroe “Super Brat” was.

  • catherine · August 4, 2018 at 10:31 am

    Less contentious topic – looking ahead to Montreal – W’don final replay if WC Williams gets past Cornet in her first match because Kerber (seeded 4) is drawn to meet her next. Serena will have a lot to play for and I’d take a bet that Angie will lose. Some players have a big come-down after winning W’don.

  • Hartt · August 4, 2018 at 10:42 am

    Serena has withdrawn from the Rogers Cup for “personal reasons.” You have to think that her poor showing in her last match played a role in this decision.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 4, 2018 at 10:54 am

    Serena has had all year to bounce back and the fact she is still struggling is not a good sign. The loss to Konta could have exposed her and done irreparable damage. Just like when Hingis throttled Seles 6060 in Miami.

  • catherine · August 4, 2018 at 11:19 am

    Hartt – you’re up-to-the-minute. Don’t know who’ll be more pleased, Cornet or Kerber 🙂

    Have to say I was a bit surprised Serena took a WC into Montreal. Scoop may well be right – not a good run-up to USO.I wonder if she’ll play Cincinnati ?

  • Duke Carnoustie · August 4, 2018 at 11:23 am

    What is an indictment of the women’s field is that Serena is struggling to get back and still made the SW19 final.

    Incidentally, Brad Gilbert was on mine and Scoop’s side that Murray crying was a sign of weakness just so you know.

    How about Klizan improving to 6-0 in career finals by crushing Istomin? He has lost only two sets in those finals.
    His winning percentage in finals is better than any of the Big 4! HA.

  • Duke Carnoustie · August 4, 2018 at 11:29 am

    A good play in tennis betting today is Nishioka over Copil in Toronto qualifying. Why?

    Copil flew yesterday from D.C. to Detroit after that Murray match Thursday night because he couldn’t get a flight to Canada. Then he drove to Toronto for this match, which is during the day. Figure he will be toast.

  • Hartt · August 4, 2018 at 11:29 am

    I am super excited. I won tickets for Monday night at the Rogers Cup, and they announced who will be playing then. It is Milos vs Goffin and Felix vs Pouille. As you know, I am a big fan of both Milos and Felix, and they will face tough opponents – 2 guys I am also looking forward to watching.

    I have never seen Felix play live, so that is especially exciting. He will still be 17 then, he doesn’t turn 18 until Wed.

  • catherine · August 4, 2018 at 11:39 am

    Hartt – great luck for you in Toronto. Hope they’re good matches.

    Would you believe this ? WTA site announces Serena’s withdrawal and her replacement by Tatjana Maria, German and ‘fellow mom’. And I thought we’d moved on.

    Duke – it doesn’t matter that Andy cried. He’s won 2 W’dons, lots of other tournaments, had a great career, received 2 decorations, and could retire tomorrow if he wanted to. But I suppose ‘real men’ don’t cry 🙂

  • catherine · August 4, 2018 at 11:45 am

    Oh and Duke – I’m not apologising for the women’s field (losing all top 10 seeds by the 2nd Monday at W’don was bizarre) but Serena made a special effort for SW19 – she really wanted it, and unluckily for her she met a player in the final who wanted it more.

    I think that effort drained her.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 4, 2018 at 11:56 am

    Congratulations Hartt, you will enjoy a special day but just don’t cheer and root too loudly, must consider the enthusiasts around you 🙂 Andy is not weak it’s ok to show weakness, heck Fed and Sampras are two of the mightiest players in tennis history and everyone remembers the examples of weakness they showed on the court. I think showing this weakness will only spark Andy to want to remind everyone how strong he really is.

  • Hartt · August 4, 2018 at 12:23 pm

    Scoop, there is no way I can be louder than my fellow fans, because that stadium will be electric with Canadians cheering for Milos and Felix. I feel sorry for anyone supporting Goffin or Pouille, although both are worthy of support.

    Rain, and a possible thunderstorm, are predicted for Monday. If those matches get rained out I will go into mourning.

  • Hartt · August 4, 2018 at 12:28 pm

    I don’t think Andy has anything to apologize for. In the middle of the night, after a fierce contest, and with all the worry about making a comeback, he had every right to be emotional.

    I would far prefer that players show their vulnerability, rather than try to live up to some outdated idea of “manliness.”

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 4, 2018 at 1:30 pm

    If Andy should apologize it’s only to one person – Copil. Copil needed the points and who knows how that win would have changed his career because for sure he would have played the next night vs deMinaur. Let’s just hope Murray’s body is fine and he can play great tennis again. Hartt, you can be the difference for Felix and Raonic, loud roaring cheerers absolutely can spark a player. I saw my friend spark Isner in Miami in his first round match vs Vesely at the start of the third set, the cheering seemed to spark the tired and fatigued Isner who had lost the second set. Fans can make a difference. Hartt you can make a difference!

  • Duke Carnoustie · August 4, 2018 at 1:34 pm

    It’s not that Andy is weak. No one thinks that. It’s a sign of weakness in that it is showing opponents that he may not regain his level. That’s the point Gilbert is making. Why show that? If I am Novak or Rafa, that moment was good for me since i know he still has doubt.

    Clear distinction that you guys don’t seem to get.

    Anyway let’s celebrate Klizan. And congrats to Hart on the Canada matches.

  • Tom Sawyer · August 4, 2018 at 2:29 pm

    Regarding Murray’s breakdown, imagine if Nick Kyrgios showed that level of commitment and vulnerability to win a late-night match against a nobody in a 500-level tournament. Yea, Murray showed weakness and for the rest of the season he is only a threat to maybe cause an upset here or there, but he also showed true heart and grit. We all got to witness how hard this comeback is for him emotionally and physically, and him being human. For me it was fascinating to see and I respect how much he loves the competition because he surely could’ve let himself lose that match and slip out the door w no drama.

  • Tom Sawyer · August 4, 2018 at 2:34 pm

    Can’t let a Johnny Mac comment go unnoticed — McEnroe was the jerk everyone loved. He was NK but actually clever and hilarious and you couldn’t take your eyes off him as he was so compelling. Sasha with his dead serial killer eyes may be the nicest guy of all time and hardest worker, yada yada, but when I’m watching his matches I often flip the channel to see what else is on.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 4, 2018 at 3:13 pm

    If Andy should apologize to anyone it’s Copil. Copil is a journeyman who needed that win, the points and to be in probably his first ATp QF. Copil desperately needed that win. I’m sure Copil would have played dMinaur the next night. I think Andy has low expectations for this comeback, he said months ago he doesn’t expect to contend for majors or be a top player again, he is okay with being around top 30.

  • catherine · August 4, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Of course we don’t know what Andy was actually crying about. Could have been many things. He may have been saying goodbye to some of his hopes, thinking of his family, anything. Tears can be a great release. Later he perhaps saw more clearly and made some decisions.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 4, 2018 at 4:17 pm

    You’re right Catherine, we don’t know exactly what provoked that emotion. It could be something we can’t comprehend. I know a top heavyweight fighter who challenged for the title, he was crying in the gym. Nobody knew why. He ruined his shoulder in a car accident and tried to comeback but his shoulder was permanently damaged and he could not jab the way he once did, it was estimated his left arm was at 50% of what it was. When he realized his shoulder was ruined and that he could no longer fight the way he once did, he cried in the gym about it. No one would dare call this guy a cry baby, he was a very accomplished, decorated amateur and professional fighter who fought for the world title several times. Won an Olympic medal too.

  • Hartt · August 4, 2018 at 4:41 pm

    Sascha just won his match against Tsitsipas 6-2, 6-4. He played very well, completely dominating Stefanos in the first set. Sascha served well and was hitting deep, powerful groundstrokes. Stefanos was so frustrated that, when sitting during a changeover he repeatedly hit his forehead very hard (bringing up comparisons to Youzhny) and then threw his water bottle.

    He seemed to gather himself for the 2nd set, but Sascha continued to play very well, although his level did drop a bit – some shots that were going in during the first set were landing just out in the 2nd. But he was fairly aggressive, and was willing to come in – he had 14/22 net points.

    It was fun having 4 youngsters, 21 and under, in the SFs. Apparently this is the first time this has happened in an ATP tourney since Buenos Aires in 1995. Sascha seemed quite surprised when he was told that he was the oldest player in the SFs.

    Rublev has to play his 2nd match today. He won his QF quite handily over Kudra, so hopefully he won’t be too tired for his SF against de Minaur.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 4, 2018 at 4:46 pm

    Looks like the Lendl effect is having the hoped for positive impact on Zverev’s development. How could it not? I like that Tsitsipas exploded and vented a rage. We had not seen this aspect of his competitive nature before and it’s a very good sign. He sent a warning message to Zverev and the world today: “I expect to beat the third best player in the world, because someday I will be ranked higher than no. 3 in the world. If I have to keep punching myself in the head to knock better sense and judgement as a player I will do it again. I am very upset for this bad performance and I will fix the problems and come back much stronger so you all better watch out when the Stefanos Tsitsipas Storm hits the courts again, next time there will be no prisoners taken.”

  • Duke Carnoustie · August 4, 2018 at 5:50 pm

    Again the interpretation of Murray that me and Brad Gilbert are saying isn’t that he is weak; it is a sign of weakness in his ability to come back and reach his former level. Two distinct things and something rivals know they can take advantage of now as opposed to the past where they knew they could not.

    Anyway Scoop is right on Copil. Needed the points and lost a heartbreaker today to Nishioka in Toronto in a 3rd-set TB after his travel issues.

    I was lucky to win that bet since I thought the Japanese would destroy him. But I did win it. And you T-P followers know what that means – strippers tonight! Great night to be the Dukester!

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 4, 2018 at 9:57 pm

    No one things Andy will regain no 1 and win majors. Not even Andy who said he’ll be happy if he’s 30 in the world again. Unless that was a smokescreen to trick everyone to underestimate him. Players use deception and feign weakness. Paes in early 2017 was talking about being near the end of his career, sounded like he was about to retire. Now his camp is talking about playing the next Olympics. So players don’t always mean what they say. It sounds and seems like Andy does not expect to be an elite player again but I guess once you play these matches you still want to win every time. And the competitive fires get lit again.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 4, 2018 at 10:18 pm

    deMinaur dismisses Rublev and will now get his rematch with Zverev who he lost to in five sets earlier this year in Davis Cup. What a rising star this Demon is. While Tsitsipas, Fritz, Felix, Shap, have all failed to win titles, Demon could do it tomorrow. He has the natural fighting spirit and balance and ability to take the ball early and redirect pace.

  • Hartt · August 5, 2018 at 12:27 am

    Anything is possible, but I will be very surprised if de Minaur wins over Sascha. I saw both their matches today (or at least most of de Minaur’s), and Sascha is playing at a higher level.

  • catherine · August 5, 2018 at 2:18 am

    Vekic v Kuznetsova in Washington. Means Donna gives up the Montreal qualifying in a w/o. But she’s come on a lot since hiring Beltz last year.

    Kuznetsova made short work of Petko. Andrea’s fun to have around but she ought really to be thinking of her next career move. Her game is just too rigid to do much against better players. ‘Linear’, as someone called it. True, Andrea was a top 10 but that was then and this is now.

    Fognini bts Delpo 🙂

  • Hartt · August 5, 2018 at 7:18 am

    A few women players missed the Rogers Cup qualies because of deep runs in Washington. That is a shame, because Rogers Cup is a Premier 5 tourney.

    There are some matches on the 2nd day of qualies that could be close, including McHale vs Riske and Safarova vs Brady. Two Canadians made it through the first round, Rebecca Marino, who is doing well in her comeback, and 15-year-old Leylah Annie Fernandez.

    Much to my surprise, I was pleased that Fognini had the upset over Delpo, winning in SS, something like 6-4, 6-2. Maybe that crazy hairstyle that Fabio had as the result of a bet, was actually a good luck charm. This was his 3rd title this season, and his first on a hard court. He is finally living up to his potential.

  • catherine · August 5, 2018 at 8:23 am

    Hartt – yes, that’s bad organisation on the part of the WTA. As I said before, Washington should be dumped. Rogers Cup is far more important and everyone ought to be given a chance to qualify.

    Fognini – give Flavia the credit ! She knew what she was doing when she persuaded him up the aisle 🙂

    Footnote on Petkovic – Andrea’s articulate (in several languages) so she’s often interviewed but to me she sounds a bit confused, about tennis and life in general. It’s a difficult time – she’s not going to improve, realistically, but it’s probably hard for her to think about retirement. Same for others, I’m sure. She says she enjoys playing now but nobody can enjoy being regularly beaten in the early rounds and that’s what’s ahead.

    I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think so.

  • Dan Markowitz · August 5, 2018 at 8:35 am

    De Minaur is the successor to Jimmy Connors. I’ve never seen another player with the grit this young Aussie has other than Connors. That win against Rublev last night was amazing and you have to give Rublev credit because he had to finish off Kudla in the morning.

    Look, De Minaur is half Uruguayan, when was the last time a Uruguayan was a top player beside Cuevas. DeMinaur is an Aussie with an asterisk since he spent a considerable part of his life so far in Spain.

    But you look at all the young Americans and they don’t match up to de Minaur. Tiafoe losing love and 3 to Goffin in this tournament; Donaldson losing a match he was serving for against Tsitsipas. The young Americans look pretty frail right now although both Tommy Paul and Tiafoe were at the top of the serving speed ladder with 137 mph’ers.

    What about Tsitsipas? That was one of the most brutal self-flagellation’s I’ve ever seen in his match versus Zverev. Actually hitting himself in the face with his hand like five times. I know you got to want it, but that kid should be fined a considerable amount of dough because what he did to himself was bad for the game.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 5, 2018 at 8:41 am

    deMinaur is special and an intriguing battler. If only Kyrgios had half the fighting heart deMinaur has he’d be winning majors left and right. deMinaur is physically inferior but he has shown over and over again that he can fight his way out of the most precarious situations and come back and win. The kid has the natural instinct and talent to win professional tennis matches. Lleyton Hewitt has created a monster who with a few more years of experience and hard work will be a top five juggernaut. You can clearly see the kid has a level of intensity that is missing in all the young American players.

  • Hartt · August 5, 2018 at 9:47 am

    De Minaur does have a great fighting spirit, but his small size is definitely a drawback. He is about the same size as Goffin, who has done well but, for the most part, has not been a top 10 player. I expect that de Minaur’s career will be similar.

    I wonder why the American youngsters aren’t fiercer competitors.

    It is hard to predict the future, especially when injuries can derail a promising career, but I expect the current youngsters who will make it to the top include Sashcha, Tsitsipas, Coric, Shapo, Auger-Aliassime and perhaps Tiafoe, Chung and Rublev. It is too early to tell, but 17-year-old Molleker also looks promising. Sascha thinks that if Kokkinakis can avoid injuries, he will be a contender for big titles, so I will add him to the list.

  • Duke Carnoustie · August 5, 2018 at 10:39 am

    One issue for the American youngsters is they have terrible mentors from the older generation. Querrey is laid back. Isner is a one-dimensional server and he doesn’t really care for this generation. Sock? Haha. Johnson and Harry are buddies but not suitable in this fashion.

    I think it has always been this way. The Changs, Sampras and those players were the same way.

    Meanwhile look at Hewitt, older French guys have mentored Pouille.

    I know Foe won Delray Beach but the U.S. Nextgen is far behind the rest of their competitors. None of these guys have Slam titles in their future.

  • Joe Blow · August 5, 2018 at 10:58 am

    One of these Americans will win 2 matches in Winston Salem, and this board will be back to predicting Slam titles for them.

    Goffin has been in the top 10 for 2 years, great achievement, but he should aspire to the same career as David Ferrer. Life in the top ten, but just a taste of greatness. A great career, tons of cash, but no Slams.

    Someone is going to have to win Majors starting in 3 or 4 years, after Fed, Nadal, and Djoker. Seeing who steps up, seeing if any of them can get to 6 or 7 slams will be interesting

  • Hartt · August 5, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    Do the American youngsters practice with one another and push each other? I think the intense rivalry between Shapo and Felix has been a benefit to both. They give everything they have to beat each other in practice, and are very complimentary about the other guy’s talent and potential at the same time. Denis is Felix’s biggest cheerleader, but he still want to crush him in practice.

  • Hartt · August 5, 2018 at 12:51 pm

    Goffin made the top 10 in Feb., 2017 and got as high as No. 7. I think that may be the best Goffin can achieve. He is now ranked No. 11. It won’t be easy for him to get back to the top 10.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 5, 2018 at 1:38 pm

    Hartt, McEnroe said he was not interested to coach Goffin because he didn’t use emotional adrenaline, suggesting that Goffin had reached his limit and that he didn’t think he could help him go any higher. Still would not write off Goffin just yet though, this is a very special player who has achieved far more than any pundit predicted.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 5, 2018 at 1:40 pm

    Hartt did you watch their practice? I’d like to know more details if you did. Felix has to produce this week, or else he’s clearly still following the footsteps of Shap. Shap broke out last year now Felix has to do it. I don’t think the young Americans do practice together, Donaldson is on his own, the Fritz Opelka Paul troika seems to have parted a bit. Mmoh is at IMG.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 5, 2018 at 1:48 pm

    de Minaur is indeed a fierce competitor, his competitive intensity stands out as extraordinary as it did for Hewitt, Nadal, Roddick, Djokovic, Serena, and Collins and Sakkari last night both showed a lot of fire. I don’t think any of the Americans really want it combined with the reality that they just don’t have anything special to reach the very top. Even Sebastian Korda, who showed so much earlier this year, winning Aus juniors and almost beating Tiafoe in three sets in NY in Feb has cooled off. Martin Blackman has to get Agassi and Sampras involved in USTA player development.

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