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Shanghai Masters results:

Dimitrov d. Istomin. (3 and 3, routine)
Gasquet d. Chardy. (65 62)
Yen Hsen Lu d. Granollers (3 sets).
Karlovic d. Cilic (7-2 in third set TB)
Juan Monaco d. J. Sousa (62 76)
John Isner d. P. Andujar (3 sets)
K. Anderson d. James Ward (3 sets)
Sock d. Tomic (Sock was down 0-3 in third, big win)
Jaziri d. Donald Young (6-4 7-6). DY slump continues.
Thiem d. Rosol (Thiem beat Rosol in Miami too)
Kukushkin d. Robredo (Kuku is a dangerous player)
Bautista Agut d. Dolgopolov (Ukrainian struggles continue)

Djokovic vs. Thiem in second round.

Federer vs. winner of L. Mayer vs. Wu. Hey whatever happened to Florian?

Sock vs. new top 5 Nishikori in second round.

Berdych vs. Gasquet in second round. Rematch of Davis Cup rout last month won by Dicky G.

Nadal vs. winner of F Lopez vs. Kokkinakis.

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  • Scoop Malinowski · October 6, 2014 at 2:41 pm

    Karlovic vs. Lu second round. Ivo always handles Lu as far as I remember.

  • Dan Markowitz · October 6, 2014 at 3:18 pm

    How about Cilic? Loses to Dr. Ivo after losing last week badly to Murray. How can the guy go from being so dominant to so beatable?

  • Scoop Malinowski · October 6, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    Dan I expect Jack to come in at any moment to answer your question 🙂

  • Scoop Malinowski · October 7, 2014 at 7:43 am

    Gulbis loses to Youzhny badly. Gulbis ship appears to be sinking. Loss to Thiem at US Open was a mental crusher. Fognini loses to a Chinese guy ranked in 500s. Youch.

  • Dan Markowitz · October 7, 2014 at 8:29 am

    Trouble with guys like Gulbis and Fogman is that they only play well when they feel up to it. You’d think for a Masters event they’d get up for it, but with these guys you never know. That’s why Ernie’s comment about the Big 4 being boring is absurd. I’m watching Murray this morning and he’s down 5-4 and a break to Gabashvili in the second set and the guy is working like a dog. The effort is always there with the Big 4 while Ernie is too inconsistent with his buddy, the Fogman.

  • Scoop Malinowski · October 7, 2014 at 9:14 am

    Maybe Gulbis and Fognini are down in the confidence department. Lotta tough losses suffered by both this summer. Hard to play or do anything when you have confidence issues. Look at Harrison. Murray’s always been a different level from the inconsistent and moody Gulbis and Fognini.

  • loreley · October 7, 2014 at 10:11 am

    Gulbis has shoulder issues since a while. He retired because of pain in his right shoulder against Klizan in Beijing. It must be serious, becuase he hardly retires from a match.

    I was surprised that he wanted to try it today. He just pushed the ball back. There was not much else he could do.

    It’s not fair to compare Gulbis with Fognini, who seems a kind of a jerk.

    When Gulbis played him in Beijing, he said in italian: You (Gulbis) have pain in your shoulder. Hope you breaks it.

    Today Fognini gave the crowd the finger when he left the court. He lost against a chinese wildcard.

    https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard/status/519418023909019649

  • loreley · October 7, 2014 at 10:23 am

    Gulbis just said that their interviews are boring. That they tell everytime the same.

    He never said that their tennis is boring or their personalities. But of course media twist his words whenever they can.

  • Dan Markowitz · October 7, 2014 at 11:21 am

    Fair enough, Lorely, but Gulbis’ results are similar to Fognini’s, even with both players having their breakthroughs at the French Open and both really only playing very well there.

    How about Thanasi Kokkinakis. He just turned 18 and took F Lo to 3 sets in China. Says his goals are to be No. 1, win Davis Cup and win multiple Grand Slams. Says he trains in LA as well as Australia and has had same coach since age 7. Good to set goals high.

  • loreley · October 7, 2014 at 11:42 am

    Fognini has not the big game a player needs in order to win big.

    The most players have high goals. Tennis parents have high goals for their kids. I wonder how many thousand young players with high goals vanished from the scene the last 10 years.

    Look at Tomic. He had/has high goals as well. Young Kygrios seems burned out already a bit as well. He said he doesn’t want to play till the end of the season, said he’ll skip his last tournaments. Now they say he was misunderstood, he’ll go on playing.

    I don’t like Fognini, but he & Ernests do pretty well so far in that tough sport. Ernests has more titles then Fognini, who won only clay tournaments.

  • Scoop Malinowski · October 7, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    Fognini is an ***ho**. I tried to Biofile him at US Open a few years ago and he blew me off. Then I ended up getting him after a match in small interview room, only because, I was told later, because the Italian Tennis Federation boss was also in the room and he didn’t want to look like a jerk. He gave me a weird vibe. Definitely a bad ass. To say that to Gulbis is outright nasty. To flip off the fans in China is unsportsmanlike. But I don’t know how rowdy the fans were, Chinese fans can be quite loud though not impolite. Still remember the first year they had the WTF in China how loud and excited the Chinese fans were. Also heard Fog shoved an opponent. In a way it is good to have a tennis villain on the scene )

  • Scoop Malinowski · October 7, 2014 at 1:24 pm

    BG likes Kokkinakis more than Kyrgios I think. Impressive kid. Big strong athlete. Nice kid too. Spoke with him at US Open about Facing Rafa. After our chat he was leaving the grounds with his bags – he was eliminated and off to the next tournament or home – and he stopped by outer court to watch quali match of countrywoman Barty vs. Oudin. Nobody recognized him. Losing to F Lo in 3 sets is a good fight for the kid.

  • jblitz · October 7, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    Rafa is scheduled to play Lopez but I still haven’t heard officially if he will. He came down with appendicitis when he arrived in Shanghai Saturday night and has been in and out of hospital since then. He didn’t want surgery in China and will meet with his doctors when he gets back to Spain but the doctors said he could try to treat it with massive doses of antibiotics which is what he’s been undergoing since Sunday.

    He finally practiced for 3/4 hr last night and said he didn’t feel great but he’d see how his night went and decide today if he could play.

    I can’t believe how unlucky poor Rafa is. 🙂

  • Scoop Malinowski · October 7, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    Very very weird things are happening around and to Rafa. Lopez has a terrible record vs. Rafa got killed every time except the time at Queens when Rafa probably threw his buddy a bone after winning FO. Talked with F LO at Open about Facing Rafa and he said he got killed every time except that Queens match. Maybe F LO can beat Rafa a second time now.

  • Dan Markowitz · October 7, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    Uh, JBlitz, you are the Rafa man. What’s wrong with Rafa? I didn’t hear anything was wrong with him other than Klizan.

  • jblitz · October 7, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    Um, did you read my post Dan? He has appendicitis and has been in the hospital receiving aggressive antibiotic treatment which tests show have reduced the inflammation. I haven’t heard yet if he’s playing tonight. He said he wants to try.

  • EddietheEagle · October 7, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    Did you catch the impossibly good-looking Fognini – at least according to Flavia Pennetta –
    (https://twitter.com/Fulvia_Fognini/status/515468928899104768) shoulder barging his Chinese wildcard opponent at the umpire’s chair after his Shangai humiliation?

  • Andrew Miller · October 7, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    Kokkinakis is good, by no means awesome. His results at u.s. challengers not great. Hard to see him better than K force Kyrgios but both aussies are with Tomic going to ensure a slam winner for australia a least in dubs! If Kyrgios can learn Robredos think on court mentality he will win atp tournaments soon. Big if.

    Kojack Kozlov has wd from todays tiburon challenger. But Smyczek Harrison is on deck today. Klahn won his match vs. sandgren. Thought Sandgren would break out the year and hit the top 100. Nope.

    steve joe wins. He and sock have all done well this year on the real world atp circuit. They have all been the antiklahn.

  • Scoop Malinowski · October 7, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    Didn’t see the clip Eddie, but would like to. Fognini is an Italian hothead. Maybe Pennetta can calm him down.

  • Scoop Malinowski · October 7, 2014 at 7:59 pm

    Kuznetsov and Kudla are also having bad years. Kudla lost and he made SF last year so a lot of points lost, and his ranking is bad to begin with. Lots of young Americans struggling mightily. Kosakowski is MIA. Fratangelo is making a move though. Smart move by Kozlov pulling out of Tiburon after the week of his life. Take a week off. Has to regroup for a big JR event in Tulsa, with number one on the line. And then WC into Valencia ATP 500 event. Smart move.

  • Dan Markowitz · October 7, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    Classic Harry move, on match point down against Smyczek in Tiburon Challenger, Smee smashed a winner and Harry let fly his blue Babolat, smashing it in the middle of the court. Poor Harry, the guy has just pulled a hat trick, losing in the first round of each Cally challenger. He went down to Donaldson, Kozlov and Smee, beaten in straight sets in the last match.

    What can you say about Harry? I watched this whole match and Harry served below 50 % on first serves and only had 2 aces that I can’t remember. You see fits of brilliance, but for the most part, he doesn’t look like he knows what he’s doing. His net forays were mostly duffed with brick hands. He’s still reasonably fast, but nothing like his teen self where the guy was a real streaker.

    Right now, Harry’s game is in deep freeze. He doesn’t even look particularly athletic out there and always burning just below the surface (and on match point for the small crowd in Tiburon to see), is Harry’s ugly ill temper. He’s confused and dazed. He better get a good coach. He can’t follow the same path or he’ll be playing Futures soon. If I were Harry, I wouldn’t wear the Nike clothing anymore, not until he gets back to the Show again.

  • Scoop Malinowski · October 7, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    Dan he needs Spadea. Make it happen. Smyczek had pressure too as he was protecting SF points from last year. Harrison can’t seem to do anything right or get any kind of break right now.

  • Andrew Miller · October 8, 2014 at 12:07 am

    So sure this isn’t losing on purpose? On that RH serve alone should get a tiebreak at least. Or something else in the personal life? Seems like the guy wants a one way ticket to leaving the sport forever.

  • bjk · October 8, 2014 at 1:01 am

    So appendicitis (steroids leads to weak immune system), thinning hair, bulging muscles, mysterious injuries, associations with shady doctors . . . I wasn’t convinced before, but the appendicitis did it. Not 100%, but at this point I would be surprised if he wasn’t juicing.

    By the way, anyone else notice that the steroids testers never bother to test Querrey more than the token once a year? He must be not raise any flags at all.

  • Dan Markowitz · October 8, 2014 at 5:37 am

    Bjk,

    Where are you getting your info on Q Ball? Supposedly, they have biological passport testing in tennis now where this method keeps track of the blood profile of each athlete over time. Any deviations from their personal norm could be a sign of doping.

    In his interview with Oprah, Lance Armstrong named the biological passport as one of the main reasons he was couldn’t continue to take PEDs without detection. He said, “It’s a question of scheduling. I know that sounds weird, but two things changed this. The shift to out-of-competition testing and the biological passport. And it really worked.”

    So I imagine they have to be testing each athlete a specific number of times to chart their blood profile.

  • bjk · October 8, 2014 at 6:38 am

    Querrey was tested twice in 2013 by USADA, Odesnik 14 times.

    http://tennishasasteroidproblem.blogspot.com/2014/10/usada-anti-doping-statistics-q2-2014.html

    2013 numbers:

    Athlete Name Test Count
    Michael C Bryan 7
    Robert C Bryan 8
    Mardy S Fish 4
    Liezel Huber 2
    John Isner 10
    Wayne Odesnik 14
    Sam Querrey 2
    Sloane Stephens 1
    Serena J Williams 5
    Venus E Williams 8

  • Dan Markowitz · October 8, 2014 at 8:30 am

    Very good. Guess it shows you they think Sam is too nice to take PED’s. Odesnik’s a meany and ranked like #125, unscrupulous, test him. Maybe they’re testing Sloane Stephens more now because she was good last year when they tested her only once, and now in 2014, maybe she’s been tested more and she stinks.

  • Scoop Malinowski · October 8, 2014 at 9:45 am

    Interesting information. To say the least. Curious that Fish barely even played last year and he was tested so aggressively. Hmmmmmmm.

  • Dan Markowitz · October 8, 2014 at 9:55 am

    How about Sock beating Nishikori in China and Lopez beating Nadal!!?

    Obviously, there were extenuating circumstances in both matches. Watching the Harry-Smee match from Tiburon last night and just now the Nadal match from China, it underlines how far Harry has fallen. Here’s Sock beating the US Open finalist in a Masters event while Harry can’t even beat a Challenger player in a small event in California. You wonder what went wrong? Was it innate talent, better coaching or just that Sock is not even at this stage so much better than Harry even as they’re world’s apart on the tennis spectrum.

  • Scoop Malinowski · October 8, 2014 at 10:09 am

    Not a surprise, Sock is a big match player and Kei could be tired from winning Tokyo. Rare win for F Lo vs. Rafa but obviously Rafa is not near top form. The Harrison story is becoming fascinating. Like how Ian Baker Finch won the British Open and then totally lost his game. Same thing happened to David Duval in golf. And to Spadea as well.

  • Andrew Miller · October 8, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    Rankings:
    S,johnson 42
    S querrey 48
    J sock 60
    Dy 67
    Smyczek 101
    Bklahn 123
    Kudla 124
    Kokkinakis 174
    Harrison 192!
    Mcgee 199…
    Rhyne w. 200…

  • Andrew Miller · October 8, 2014 at 12:18 pm

    Sure there is not something more going on? Heinekens ? Betting on his own matches? Why is the player so po’d ? Looks like losing on purpose. Most visible self implosion in u.s. tennis history.

  • Andrew Miller · October 8, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    Capriati. Harrisons slide is like jcap.

  • Andrew Miller · October 8, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    Sock now sees all matches as big! Congrats to sock .

  • loreley · October 8, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    Nishikori won Kuala Lumpur as well. Two tournaments in a row.

    Sometimes guys get lucky, draw exhausted or ill players.

    Too bad Dominic Thiem got the best player in the draw for second round. He played well, but Djoker is a machine & a wall.

    There are not many seeded players left. Everyone seems injured, ill or exhausted. Typical for the end of the season.

    Rusty Federer almost lost against Leonardo Mayer, who played out of his skin. Federer saved 5 (!) matchpoints.

    via SI Twitter:

    Roger Federer called that his “greatest escape”. Said it was all luck. Feels Mayer deserved it and feels bad. Also dealing with a cold.

  • dan markowitz · October 8, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    Firstly, Sock is not a big match player. And don’t mention doubles matches. Sock’s gotten to only 3 3rd rounds in a slam. His best win in a slam is either Steve Johnson (not so great on clay at French), Cipolla or Gicquel. Take your pick…what big match has Sock ever won at a slam…and he’s 22 not 18. Kyrgios is 19 and he’s the young guy I’d say is a big match player.

    Secondly, Nishikori had won back to back Asian tournaments, he was playing on ether. Still a good win, but totally understandable and Sock has beaten only the diminished Dolgo and Kei on the Asian swing so far.

    Harry is not losing matches on purpose. He’s totally lost his way and Spadea was losing his record 21 (he’ll contest that because 3 I think were in that team competition they used to have in Germany before the French) against tour players. Harry, for the most part and on this latest swing, is losing to Challenger/Futures players.

    McGee, even with qualying at Open is below what he was coming into the OPen.

  • dan markowitz · October 8, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    In fact, Spadea’s 20-match losing streak (I just went back and counted and I only counted 20 matches lost in a row) was weird because the streak started in 1999, a year where he beat Federer, Agassi, Magnus Norman, Kuerten on clay 7-6 in the third, Santoro, Grosjean, Kucera, Kafelnikov twice, Sampras, Clement, Courier and Canas.

    I mean what a year. He got to the Aussie O quarters, Monte Carlo quarters, Stuttgart and Gstaad quarters, Lyon semis, Indy finals, French 3rd round and Us Open Rd of 16. He played 60 matches winning 33. Maybe what set off his losing streak was exhaustion.

  • Jack · October 8, 2014 at 3:08 pm

    Boy, this place really perked up. Everybody back from vacation ?

    Although you can’t read too much into one loss (injured, sick, lack of motivation), you can recognize patterns in a player’s performances over time.

    Lance Armstrong always peaked in July, for seven years in a row. His performances outside that window were substantially worse. We now know for certain, why. PEDs.

    Cilic’s performance at the 2014 USO, was substantially above anything he has ever done before (Cilic’s performance was as good as Safin at the 2000 USO, or Sampras at the 2002 USO, or Federer at the 2003 Wimbledon, the best that these excellent players played in their careers). At almost 26, this is highly suspicious. You add into the mix, that he has been banned for illegal drugs before, and his “back to normal” performances since, I would put the odds at about 90% that Cilic was doped up at the 2014 USO.

    As for Nadal, although I am sure his blind supporters will come up with “explanations” as to why he has lost his last two matches, the truth is however, that this part of the season has no grand slams. If you were doping, you would be cycling down at this time of year. Your performance would be substandard at this time of year.

    Nadal has substantially underperformed in the fall every year for the ten years he has been on the tour. This continues to occur this year. Since the tour has done away with fast carpet, the surface is not an excuse.

    I am sure that when Nadal cuts through the draw in Melbourne, like a hot knife through butter, we will hear more “explanations” as to how that can happen from his blind fanboys.

  • Scoop Malinowski · October 8, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    Sock is a big match player and we will see it in singles. TO beat the greatest doubles team in history in five sets in a Wimbledon final is about as big as it gets.

  • Scoop Malinowski · October 8, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    Did Vince ever elaborate on why he hit that horrific slump Dan? Was it personal problems? Family issues?

  • Scoop Malinowski · October 8, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    Hard to argue with Jack )

  • jblitz · October 8, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    It would be very easy to argue with Jack because he’s so completely wrong on so many points but it’s not worth wasting my time to argue with idiots.

  • Jack · October 8, 2014 at 5:53 pm

    “Rafael Nadal hopes to delay surgery until after the season”, from :
    http://www.si.com/tennis/2014/10/08/rafael-nadal-appendicitis-shanghai-atp-season

    Odd timing to wait until December for the surgery. It would affect his preparation for Melbourne.

  • Andrew Miller · October 8, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    Sock is playing harder these days. He is one of the few players capable of winning an opening round atp match, even with his nonexistent backhand. Its true to be a big match player you need to win enough to make it to a big match. As of IndianWells that wasnt socks way. But he is on a nice run of first round wins and beating Nishikori is a nice milestone or notch in the belt even an ailing Nishikori. But sock is craftier than he looks, he thinks out there . He has a huge serve and fh. It isnt enough to win say a masters yet or even an atp yet but he has had a good second half of the year. Indoors should play to his strengths.

    I like that sock now wins matches he should win and some he shouldnt. That is a huge step towards bigger results.

  • Andrew Miller · October 8, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    Nadal dislikes indoors. No mystery!

  • Jack · October 8, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    Nadal’s current plans are to complete the indoor season, then have the surgery.

    I expect him to have the surgery earlier than his stated plan.

  • Andrew Miller · October 9, 2014 at 1:01 am

    Watched Harrison-Smyczek. First, Smyczek is a smart player – the announcer said Smyczek’s the kind of player that if you follow tennis you appreciate. It’s true – he is business like, no fuss, and organizes his matches to win. He is lightning fast, he often hits the right ball at the right time – he reminds me a little bit of JC Ferrero with his whip strokes. That was a good win last week from Kozlov and no doubt Smyczek said too good – if you can beat Smyczek you have a future on the tour. So count me a Smyczek fan.

    As for Harrison – he obliterated a racquet at the end. Yells at himself too. This player is in turmoil. I didn’t have issues with his game but the rap is out – feed Harrison a steady diet of returned balls and he’ll throw in an error. He has to find a way to stick with the rally without playing from three meters behind the baseline, and he has to be able to hit one more shot as well. The player is plenty powerful – his serves and groundstrokes can be big shots. But when he misses he either hits straight into the net or misses several feet behind the baseline. Suggests he’s pulling down on his serve and lifting up on his shots. Maybe not sufficient knee bend, or general footwork.

    Sometimes Harrison waited for the ball rather than hit on the rise – this also gave Smyczek more than enough time to line up his own response, usually resulting in an unreturnable ball. He gave away a lot of free points and sorry to say but he gives up on himself out there. Part of it is that somethings wrong with his consistency – he has to be able to stay in those rallies a little longer. The other part is footwork. The last part is the confidence that comes from knowing you CAN stick around as long as it takes to finish the job.

    So – Harrison’s groundstrokes actually looked OK – the funky forehand sometimes made an appearance but for the most part looks like he’s shortened up and reduced the chance for the error. However it’s not all that clear how long he’s had these strokes in his tool-kit – if he’s not used to them that could be reason for the mis-firing, as well as the temptation to go ahead and revert back to the odd forehand production. Wouldn’t do it.

    When Harrison stepped in he took away time from Smyczek and won a lot of points this way – surprised he didn’t use this more often. He teed off a number of Smyczek serves but didn’t do this consistently.

    Sharpen up the return, stay with the serve, stay in the rallies, etc. Again he didn’t look too bad out there – not a lost cause. But, neither is he playing top 100 ball – he’s playing ball around his ranking. Needs to get comfortable with the style that he’s being asked to work on, with the solid backhand, solid forehand taken early, taking serves early, not pulling up on his shots and not caving in on the serves. All of this is possible.

  • Gaurang · October 9, 2014 at 3:40 am

    One thing — Novak Djokovic’s last week’s performance was awesome! He utterly dominated the tournament beating 5 good players with one-sided score-lines:

    R32 Guillermo Garcia-Lopez (ESP) 38 W 6-2, 6-1
    R16 Vasek Pospisil (CAN) 41 W 6-3, 7-5
    Q Grigor Dimitrov (BUL) 10 W 6-2, 6-4
    S Andy Murray (GBR) 11 W 6-3, 6-4
    W Tomas Berdych (CZE) 6 W 6-0, 6-2

    In Shanghai, amazed that Sock won against Nishikori. I watched a small part of the match, and Sock was playing amazing. Nishikori did not loose due to playing bad. It was Sock that was simply playing better. Sock is reaching his potential, showing his game now. He is headed to top 30. His live ranking is already #50 after that win, and would go to #44 should we win against Benneteau.

    Johnson is also playing well.

    Well looks like we have now got our Isner and Querrey replacements. (Isner->Sock, Querrey->Johnson).

  • Andrew Miller · October 9, 2014 at 6:58 am

    Also interesting what announcer for smyczek/harrison match said about harrison drop : better scouting by opponents ( there is a rap out on how to beat him! ) and confidence ( meaning in previous years harrison stayed with his shots through thick and thin – going for extra ball etc). Wonder if a racquet problem? Noticed Harrison racquet is a power enhancer while Smee plays with a racquet that gives good feel , contrl. Given Harrison breaks a few racquets per match ( that is a lot of racquets ) maybea racquet switch is in order. Just saying Harrison doesnt need to hit harder but he does need a heavy racquet to stabilize his swing etc . Why not just ditch the babolats.

  • Scoop Malinowski · October 9, 2014 at 8:44 am

    By smashing it after losing to Smyczek, maybe Harrison is showing he is fed up with Babolat. But he could be under contract. Porbably should change racquets, change everything right now. This is rockbottom. Good analysis of his game Andrew. There absolutely is hope. 43 once 43 can happen again.

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