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Maria TKOs Serena at Roland Garros


Serena Williams decided to pass on the much-anticipated R16 showdown with her arch-rival Maria Sharapova at Roland Garros. The American has withdrawn from the tournament with an arm injury.

“I unfortunately have been having some issue with my pec [pectoral] muscle,” she said to a group of reporters in a press conference. “Right now I can’t actually serve, so it’s hard to play. I can’t physically serve.”

“It’s very difficult because I love playing Maria. Her game matches so well against mine.”

Williams said she first senses the injury during her third-round victory over Germany’s Julia Goerges. She said she tried to apply a strap to her shoulder to protect the muscle but the precautionary measure was unsuccessful in her doubles defeat with sister Venus Williams on Sunday.

“It didn’t start before I got here,” Williams added. “It was really painful and I didn’t know what it was. I’m going to get an MRI tomorrow, I’ll stay here and see some doctors here, but I won’t know about [Wimbledon] before that.”

“I’m beyond disappointed. I gave up so much – time with my daughter time with my family I put everything on the court all for this moment. So it’s really difficult to be in the situation. [But] I try to think positive and think of the bigger picture, the next events and the rest of the year.”

Was it a duck move by Serena? Is this injury a smokescreen for insecurity about the level of her game right now? Was Serena intimidated by Maria’s performances during the first week of Roland Garros? Does Serena feel unsure about if she can beat her greatest antagonist?

On the surface, maybe not. But if you have doubts about everything you hear and most tennis player injuries, well then …

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  • Chazz · June 4, 2018 at 10:30 am

    Sounds legit to me, and I’m not a Williams fan.

  • Duke Carnoustie · June 4, 2018 at 10:30 am

    Wow Serena really wishes she would have beaten MS again – “my game matches up so well against her”

    On a side note, with no match the Dan-Catherine argument is all for naught.

  • catherine · June 4, 2018 at 10:36 am

    Duke – it wasn’t much of an argument anyway.

    My next one – Kerber for the title 🙂

    I think it’s a legit injury too – Serena’s not one to avoid these things. She might even have been looking forward to it.

  • Dan Markowitz · June 4, 2018 at 10:59 am

    This just further proves my point that women’s tennis is oh so disappointing. I was waiting for this match, had carved out time to watch it and then I come back and find out Serena’s pulled out. Instead I watch The Woz lose in SS to Kasatkina, who I actually found much more interesting to watch than The Woz who’s like a metronome, always hitting the same shot, absolutely no variety to her game.

    Then I try to watch Kerber v Garcia and that match was another snore-fest with Garcia making unforced errors up the wazoo and Kerber playing her metronome game. It’s not the kind of tennis I’m going to devote a lot of interest/time into it.

    Look Nadal v Marterer wasn’t exactly my cup of tea either, but the young German did show pluck and he battled. But how about Schwartzmann, he came back from facing match games in both the third and fourth sets to beat Anderson. That’s the kind of tennis I want to see from the women’s game, but so far there hasn’t been one really good women’s match in RG yet. Let’s hope for Kerber v Halep and Keys v Sloane.

  • Scoop Malinowski · June 4, 2018 at 11:04 am

    Diego Schwartzman is the no. 1 most amazing player in the ATP today. He solidified that ranking today. This guy looks like he could be playing Under 16s and he’s about to reach the top 10 ATP.

  • catherine · June 4, 2018 at 11:13 am

    Dear Dan – Serena’s injury doesn’t prove anything except that’s life and yes it’s so disappointing but that’s life too. And what if this much anticipated mega-bout has turned out to be a one-sided non-match ? Just disappointing.

    Kerber and Halep can both play like metronomes so if I were you I’d avoid that one too.

  • Scoop Malinowski · June 4, 2018 at 11:20 am

    Is Wally Masur’s theory the tale of today’s Maria vs Serena ghost match? https://www.tennis-prose.com/articles/scoop/players-use-lies-excuses-fabrications-to-protect-their-ego/

  • catherine · June 4, 2018 at 11:28 am

    Dan – Sloane has to get past Kasatkina, whom you praised above, before she meets Keys.

    Sloane v Daria could be a good match.

  • Duke Carnoustie · June 4, 2018 at 12:30 pm

    That was a helluva Diego comeback but the men’s tourney has been a bore. Only the Thiem-Sascha match is something to savor. Delpo hasn’t been threatened and the Grigors and Pouilles and Querreys of the world have folded up in pathetic fashion. The young guns outside of Thiem and Sascha too.

    Marterer showed me a little bit but win a damn set. RBA was dealing with the loss of his mother so he gets a pass but the ATP tour has been top-heavy as usual even w/o the great Fed.

  • Joe Blow · June 4, 2018 at 1:46 pm

    Watching Fog/Cilic

    3-3 5th set. Fog fights back to 40-30 after being down love 30. Playing fast. Some clown in the front row decides to walk out. Play stops, Fog looks at him like he wants to kill him. Fan totally oblivious. Fog loses rhythm gets broken next 3 points.

  • Dan Markowitz · June 4, 2018 at 4:02 pm

    Fognini always has some bad luck at the French. How about the time he had to default in the quarters?

    Yes, Halep and Kerber will not be on my “must-see-tv” list although I do like to watch Halep some because she’s got so much insolence to everyone, herself, her coach, she’s a fiery sort as is Kerber, but her game is way too boring. When is the last time a good female player struck a one-hander? Suarez? Mauresemo, Navratilova? Pam Shriver? It shows how cookie-cutter the women’s game really is.

    Schwartzman’s amazing. He lost the first two sets 1 and 2.

    Kasatkina v Sloane could be fun as Daria has the variety in her game, even though she was hitting first serves in the 70’s today, and Stephens has that Evert unflappability.

  • Scoop Malinowski · June 4, 2018 at 4:09 pm

    Diego Schwartzman is going to fulfill my prediction that he will be top ten in the world. I am the only person to have made this seemingly once outrageous forecast. When he beat Ferrer 1 and 2 in Miami last year, it was evident this player is amazing and special. He has a shot to take down Rafa in the QF 🙂

  • Hartt · June 4, 2018 at 4:46 pm

    I don’t understand why Dasha was having so much trouble with her serves in the match against Woz. Yesterday she was making so many DFs, 3 in a row, that she slowed her serve just to get it in. She doesn’t have a big serve, but this is not typical, she is much better as a rule.

    I think Dasha vs Sloane could be a good match. Dasha does not have the same power as Sloane, although her FH can be a weapon. But she has tennis smarts, good variety, quickness around the court, and is a fighter.

  • catherine · June 5, 2018 at 3:00 am

    Hartt
    Maybe Daria should hire a specialist serving coach, different coaches for different strokes as they have in other sports. When your serves breaks down it’s a real signal to an opponent. I think Sloane will win this match since she is generally stronger all round, as well as being a little older and big event toughened.

    As for the one-handed topic, we’ve been here before many times – it would take one totally dominating top player to give a one-handed example to others and inspire coaches to try a different style with girls. Some hope. BTW – how many top men are one-handed, apart from Federer and Stan ?

    BTW -I was interested to see a pic of Simona meeting Justine Henin at RG. Now Simona has always said Justine is her idol which has always puzzled me since Simona plays nothing like Justine and has a two-handed b’hand. And when would she have seen Henin play ? Simona’s much younger.

    But then Angie has always cited Steffi as her idol and two more dissimilar players I can’t imagine. But perhaps all German girls say that.

  • catherine · June 5, 2018 at 3:32 am

    Dan – if you’re going back to Navratilova/Shriver for examples of onehanded players you might include Graf, who was onehanded as far as I can recall. But how much influence did she have ? How much did Martina, come to that ?

    Chris started the twohanded way – she really did have an influence and women’s tennis has never recovered.

    Not her fault of course.

  • Dan Markowitz · June 5, 2018 at 6:22 am

    There are a few big examples besides Stan and Fed of the one-hander flourishing on the men’s tour: Thiem, Shapovalov, Tsitipas are the younger players all coming up with one-handers.

    Yes, it takes one player to show the others it can be successful, but the women’s game is not thriving on variety of late.

  • Hartt · June 5, 2018 at 7:41 am

    Catherine, Dasha’s serve is usually fine, and presumably she will get back to her normal serving.

    There was a nice piece about her on the RG site. (One of the few things they did well.) She talked about her style: “I’m trying to play a more strategic game, because I’m not the biggest girl to hit balls so hard, so I have to find different ways to win. If you want to win, you have to adapt.”

    She also talked about watching Rafa “all through my childhood. Maybe that’s why I have the spin and all these kind of things in my game.”

    The interviewer was impressed with how she gives thoughtful responses to journalists, not just pat answers.

  • Scoop Malinowski · June 5, 2018 at 8:29 am

    Did anyone else notice Serena hitting one handers in the warmup with Georges? I’m surprised the NBC commentators didn’t mention it (McEnroe, Carillo, Robinson).

  • Scoop Malinowski · June 5, 2018 at 8:31 am

    Hartt, the Russina players are excellent interviews always, they all are very intelligent thoughtful and give you much more than you expect. I have learned this thankfully for many years and most recently for my Safin book from Youzhny, Donskoy, Tursunov, Golubev, Sobkin, Khachanov.

  • catherine · June 5, 2018 at 9:01 am

    Hartt – I just thought Daria might have got the serving yips, like golfers do with a certain stroke, and they go to someone for help. But maybe her serve will right itself.

    Yes, I’ve always like what I’ve heard of Daria’s interviews, she’s more articulate than most. Unfortunately as players get older they start to get more wary and the shutters come down. I think this is partly through sheer boredom and maybe also a bit of defensiveness. Older players tend to give pat answers: thinking,’how soon can I get away from this insanity ? I want to go shopping/sleep/practice ‘.

    Scoop – Kim Clijsters made a comment on Serena’s injury, saying you feel more aches and strains for many months after pregnancy. Which makes sense because some muscle groups are affected by hormone changes and that may weaken them and it takes a while to build up again.
    Having a baby, even without complications, is a big strain on the body. Serena may have over-estimated her powers of recovery.

  • Chazz · June 5, 2018 at 9:15 am

    Watching this Thiem-Zverev match and I love watching Thiem play, the guy is a magician on clay. Zverev might not go the distance with his hamstring issue, which is fine because I hope Thiem saves energy for Djokovic and Nadal.

  • Joe Blow · June 5, 2018 at 9:19 am

    The commentators said Kasatkina might have had a hard time serving because it was her first time in Chartrier..The huge surroundings might have thrown her off. Have heard other people say it takes a while for some to get rhythm, when the dimensions of the surroundings are huge.

  • Duke Carnoustie · June 5, 2018 at 10:44 am

    Taylor Fritz takes out Glasspool and the qualifier moves into the next round against de Minaur. Could be the start of something big.

  • Joe Blow · June 5, 2018 at 11:29 am

    Looks like Djoko’s wife finally forgave him for the ALLEGED cheating..She’s back in the box leading the cheers

  • Hartt · June 5, 2018 at 11:49 am

    I wanted Thiem to win his match over Sascha, but it was sad to see Sascha so hampered by the hamstring injury. He did well to continue to fight in that match. I hope he can recover before his first grass tourney. And I definitely want to see Thiem play against Rafa.

    Sloane played very well and Dasha was far from her best, missing shots she normally makes. So an easy win for Sloane in SS.

  • Hartt · June 5, 2018 at 11:56 am

    Gabriela Dabrowski and Mate Pavic won their SF in mixed doubles over Srebotnik/Gonzales in SS. So Gabi will get to defend her RG mixed doubles title – she and Bopanna won last year. The prize $ for mixed doubles is peanuts, but it all helps. And even doubles great Daniel Nestor has only 4 Slam titles in mixed. Gaby is still young, perhaps she can surpass that!

  • Duke Carnoustie · June 5, 2018 at 12:06 pm

    Imagine if Gaby and Pavic get the mixed Slam this year. That would be epic. I am rooting for it to happen.

  • catherine · June 5, 2018 at 12:22 pm

    Tomorrow Halep/Kerber and Muguruza/Sharapova.

    Simona wants this one – and Angie’s a familiar face across the net. They know each other’s games back to front and inside out. No prediction.

    Garbine and Maria both have something to prove. Garbine has hardly been visible this tournament and it’s hard to assess her form. My prediction is that this match will either be an epic or over quickly. Which just about covers it 🙂

  • Hartt · June 5, 2018 at 1:35 pm

    So Cecchinato, a player who has never won a Slam match, just beat Novak and will be in the SF! What next!

  • Hartt · June 5, 2018 at 1:42 pm

    Duke, yes it would be wonderful if Gaby and Mate could win the mixed. He is the current No. 1 in men’s doubles but she tends to fly under the radar, although she is about No. 10 in women’s doubles. In today’s match Gaby actually bailed them out a couple times, so it was great to see her win the match with a smash.

  • Chazz · June 5, 2018 at 1:57 pm

    That Djokovic Cecchinato 4th was nuts. Djoker was coasting and was up 5-2 I think and looked like he would coast to through a 5th set to victory, and then Cecchinato was able to prolong rallies and Djoker started getting worn out. The tiebreaker was crazy, Djoker had several set points and on one of them missed a wide open court, it was a massive choke. Such a good match, Cecchinato deserved to win.

  • Scoop Malinowski · June 5, 2018 at 2:09 pm

    Catherine, Serena looked super and elated after win vs Georges. No sign of anything. There has to be some smoke with a fire otherwise it’s suspicious. Like Wally Masur said, players fabricate and fake things to protect their egos.

  • Scoop Malinowski · June 5, 2018 at 2:12 pm

    Hartt, I’d rather win a Grand Slam mixed doubles title than a Masters 1000 singles. It’s history. Dabrowski is the leader of the Canadian Armada, not Raonic, not Shap, not Nestor, not Bouchard. Dabrowski is the only one consistently challenging for big titles.

  • Scoop Malinowski · June 5, 2018 at 2:14 pm

    Cecchinato has to be one of the all time shocker Rocky Balboa stories in modern grand slam history. Talk about a no name, sub journeyman, into a major semi? He outSandgrened Sandgren. Two straight majors of miraculous breakouts by a completely irrelevant, unsung, unheralded nobody. This is so great for the sport.

  • catherine · June 5, 2018 at 2:36 pm

    Sorry Scoop – I think you’re wrong on this one. Several people noticed Serena was not serving at her peak in the her doubles and Venus seemed to confirm it. No great effort needed to beat Julia I’m afraid and Serena was probably happy to get through.

    At this point in her career Serena has nothing to lose. She’s not going to risk her health even if it means skipping W’don. And she’s a mother first now.

    Serena knew she’d have to be in good shape to play, and beat Maria on clay, she knew she wasn’t, and I imagine she did not want to retire half way through the match, giving a kind of victory to Maria. So she decided not to play. Pity it was so late, but my belief is that that’s the whole story. Nothing else.

  • catherine · June 5, 2018 at 2:53 pm

    Oh, and you know the saying: ‘Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar’. (attrib Freud)

  • Scoop Malinowski · June 5, 2018 at 3:52 pm

    Catherine, if I saw just one lil slight hint of a cringe of pain by Serena vs Georges, I would agree with you fully. Maria is playing lights out tennis right now, her destruction of Pliskova was intimidating.

  • Duke Carnoustie · June 5, 2018 at 4:24 pm

    Scoop you stole my line! Cecchinato just made the Sandgren story look pedestrian! Also how about Fognini playing all these years and the ‘Cecchin Missile’ swooping in and becoming the first Italian male to reach a Slam semi in 40 years. I think he will knock off Thiem also.

    No doubt Serena was afraid to lose. She would have forfeited against any player she has beef with like Sloane.
    We know conspiracy theories generally check out (Pizzagate with Hillary, etc.) so there’s not a good reason to take Serena at face value. Plus she has fabricated stuff before like Indian Wells. Having said that, she is well within her right to do so and I am sure she will crush Masha the next time they meet.

    Mark down next Wednesday for Fed’s first match since losing to Kokk.

    I missed that Kozlov was drilled 1 and 0 by Dan Evans in Surbiton over the weekend. I tried telling you the Koz is a no-talent hack. And DY lost to Koz just this year!

  • catherine · June 5, 2018 at 4:28 pm

    Scoop – Serena can be stoical about pain, lots of players can, they don’t want to show weakness, and you know I don’t believe she’s a coward.

    Serena’s beaten Maria many many times and a loss at RG, after all the other things which she’s gone through recently, would not have thrilled her but I don’t think she would have been devastated.

    She could have played, and retired, but she chose not to do that.

    Makes a good story, that Serena Williams was frightened of losing, and losing face, but I doubt it’s true.

  • Duke Carnoustie · June 5, 2018 at 4:34 pm

    Cecc now has reached one fewer Slam semi than Grigor. Also one fewer than Monfils.

    Wilander also in my camp that he thinks Fed should play one more time at RG being a former champion. I hope it happens next year.

    Keys or Sloane will become first American non-Williams sister in final since Capriati in 2001.

    I’ll throw this out to T-P. Is Kuznetsova a HOF player or will she be Kafelnikoved out of the Hall? The general ITF rule of thumb is Russian players have to do more to get in while Americans like Andy Roddick can achieve less and gain entry.

    I do hope Masha and Serena get elected in the same year!

  • Duke Carnoustie · June 5, 2018 at 4:35 pm

    One more thing about Sascha: It’s not your time.

  • Hartt · June 5, 2018 at 6:56 pm

    Scoop, if Dabrowski and Pavic do win the mixed doubles it will be the third time for each, the 2018 AO together and one other tourney with different partners. So it would be a great result. She won last year’s RG with Bopanna. then he dropped her just before this year’s AO, without even letting her know he had a new partner. So there was a bit of revenge when she and Pavic beat Bopanna in the AO final.

    Gaby is finally getting some attention in the Canadian media. Not enough, in my view, but at least there is some press about her. And Tom Tebbutt had a nice piece about today’s SF, talking about how well she played.

    I don’t know if she is the leader of the Canadian Armada, but it is true that she is the one getting big wins. She has 7 doubles titles, including one Premier Mandatory (Miami) and one Premier 5 (Doha) to go with the mixed doubles Slams.

  • Dan Markowitz · June 5, 2018 at 7:46 pm

    Scoop,

    You ask Izzie what he’d rather do, win Miami or win a Slam MxD doubles and guess what he’s going to say? The fact you’d rather win a slam MxD is absurd. Spadea once was upset that he missed out reaching the Qtrs of the USO in the MxD because apparently you get a lifelong pass to the tournament when you reach the quarters in any event.

    What can you say about Ceccinnato? The guy is golden. That backhand down the line on match point that fell in is a harbinger for his whole tournament. See to me–THAT IS TENNIS! Djoko did choke in thet 4th set breaker, but Djoker’s got presence. How about him raising his finger to the sky and making a Shakespearean gesture when he missed that forehand that would’ve given him the 4th set.

    In Ceccinnato falling to the clay and wearing the red clay on the back of his shirt as he broke out in tears after winning. That was a tennis match.

  • Chazz · June 5, 2018 at 8:19 pm

    If it is available online somewhere, I suggest that any tennis fan should watch that 4th set. So much drama and excitement and the fans/atmosphere was electric. Cecchinato is something special so far in this tournament but I expect Thiem to handle him rather soundly, and it will be great for tennis to have a Thiem-Nadal final.

  • caherine · June 6, 2018 at 2:50 am

    My predictions for Muguruza/Sharapova – there will a lot of baseline bashing and it will be very loud – causing lots of muted TVs and complaints about shrieking.

    The toughest set of lungs will win 🙂

  • catherine · June 6, 2018 at 3:01 am

    Chazz – be assured that match won’t be available online anywhere. So unless you know someone who’s recorded it, and they can watch in the privacy of their own homes and maybe invite friends around, it’s gone for good.

  • catherine · June 6, 2018 at 3:28 am

    I like the way Djokovic handled his post match jaw-in. He rushed to the smallest interview room, no mic, no shorthand taker, spoke for 4 mins and rushed out again.

    And do you know what ? The world didn’t stop spinning and reporters still wrote their stories.

  • Michael in UK · June 6, 2018 at 3:48 am

    Wow, yes to agree with Dan and Chazz, that final set and especially the tie break was sensational tennis. Terrific shots from both players, and a few terrible errors.
    Great drama with Ceccinatto knowing he only had to win the tie to win the match, and Djokovic knowing even if he won it, he would have to go on to win a final set.

    Another victory for the tennis scoring system which creates so many turning points and cliffhanger moments when a whole match can turn.

  • Scoop Malinowski · June 6, 2018 at 7:26 am

    Duke, Not sure if Zverev was feeling fatigue from the five setters or if he just got manhandled. Thiem was a heat seeking missile out for revenge for the previous loss to Z, remember the racquet smash by Thiem?

  • Scoop Malinowski · June 6, 2018 at 7:28 am

    Hartt, she is the leader and the only one getting any kind of significant wins. It’s not about potential or random good wins it’s about winning and Dabrowski is winnimg. Maybe it will trigger her singles career.

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