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How American Tennis Can Alter Its Course of Mediocrity

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Someone has to take the blame for the mediocre results of American tennis.

The USTA needs to change it’s methods. In a major, drastic way. The USTA Developmental System leaders should haul off every American in the top 200 and force them into a month and a half long tennis boot camp. Not as a form of punishment but a way to build character, team unity and to toughen them up.

US Tennis is in a state of emergency. Look at the abysmal rankings of our players. That’s got to change. Now. Before it gets even worse.

Every American player in the top 200 or any player in the top thousand who volunteers to attend the boot camp should be accepted. 45 days of brutal hard work. Strict diet. No phones, no texts, no contact with family except for emergencies. Just work the players to the bone, Rambo style. 6 am wakeup calls, military officer style blowing whistles and making them run ten miles and doing obnstacle courses, boxing training for hand eye coordination and even some light boxing sparring would build character and confidence and toughness. Also there will be punishments for disobedience or failure. Work em like dogs like in that movie Officer And A Gentleman. Also let the players have bonding time playing cards, fishing, etc.

The current system is producing mediocrity. American fans and legends like Sampras, Courier, Agassi, McEnroe, Chang have to be embarrassed by what it sees. Drastic changes must happen. Now. Before it’s too late.

A leader has to emerge to save this sinking ship.

79 comments

  • Mitch · November 19, 2013 at 9:57 am

    Are you sure this is actually a recipe for success and wouldn’t instead lead to major burnout? Outside of Ferrer, who was apparently literally locked in a shed and once quit tennis to work a construction job, what other top players have been put through such a rigorous regime?

  • Scoop Malinowski · November 19, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Mitch, I think these players need to work their asses off. I saw Sock practice and he half asses it, even another former ATP player was disgusted watching it, said there’s “no structure.” Ferrer turned out all right didn’t he? I know of some boxers who subjected themselves to brutal training camps. Aaron Pryor would spar 35 straight rounds, even sparring guys 50 pounds heavier. Boxers sparring eight minute rounds. Another boxer stayed in a house during his camp with no beds, he’d sleep on the wood floor with just a sheet, no pillow. If you want to talk about extreme, that’s extreme. Of course our American tennis players would have to be treated a lot softer and gentler. But you get the idea. They all need to be toughened up. The current direction is failing miserably.

  • Andrew Miller · November 19, 2013 at 10:11 am

    What ship? Ship sunk. Row-boat.

  • Scoop Malinowski · November 19, 2013 at 10:16 am

    I hear you Andrew, but there has to be a solution. American mens tennis is two sets down and down a double break in the third set. There is still a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel…what would you do to smatch victory from the jaws of defeat?

  • Andrew Miller · November 19, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Agree with Mitch.

  • Andrew Miller · November 19, 2013 at 11:11 am

    1. Level playing field (same as what’s happening) – fair competition for wild cards AND Davis Cup spots (means if you are Smyczek, you too have a shot).

    2. Encourage more players to seek challengers outside U.S. (like Klahn). Create some agreement with Australia, Spain, France, maybe addressing tournament fees or stringing or something.

    3. Player-based Psychology guide for tennis and give it to the players. French players used to read Agassi transcripts, memorize them. This isn’t hard.

    4. U.S.-only guide to players’ biographies so that players who hit the tour get the wisdom from past champions (which is way better than “Agassi once played the challengers and he came back from all the way down at 120 to #1!” <- that's misleading. Become Agassi or even Spadea first, then drop off the rankings cliff, and then you can perform said miracle).

  • Gaurang · November 19, 2013 at 6:13 pm

    I agree with Scoop. These players need to a kick on their bu**. No easy times, and enjoying with a little prize money. Work hard. No excuse, no alternative.

    Obviously its only a 1.5 month long camp. Not life-long. So burnout is not an excuse.

    Also USTA should do something to make the top 50 players come out in the limelight. There’s low tennis following now-a-days in the masses. A lot of people dont follow tennis, nor like to watch. Thats why so many tournaments are closing and have gone to other countries like South America. USTA should do something to get tennis into the limelight again. Maybe it needs to work with ESPN. Maybe it needs to get US tennis players in the top 50 paraded down a superbowl match (lol). Basically something to energize the appeal of tennis, so that players in the 50-200 rank range work harder since they know more people are looking at them, more people are following them, and more people have higher expectations of them.

    The players have less motiviation now — they just work for themselves and their prize money. They need to work for the high expectations of the millions of fans. They need to know that millions of people are watching out for them and will not accept anything below top 50, or even top 20, or even top 10.

  • Andrew Miller · November 19, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    There’s an idea. At one football game, have a player serve a ball from one end of the field , or half-field, through the crossbars. Make it a gatorade commercial.

  • Scoop Malinowski · November 19, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    Gaurang it has to be a lonesome, hard life for a guy like Chase Buchanan, out there grinding all over the globe, and he’s doing it in pretty much total anonymity. I believe my interview with him was one of the only ones I read on him all year. I’m sure it helps these players when they know they have fans who are following and care about them and how they are doing. I had forgotten about Buchanan but after doing that Biofile with him, I want to follow his results and hope he can get up to the top 50. The tennis media should do more to cover the lesser players instead of the same top names week after week. I will never forget Evander Holyfield saying one of the reasons American boxing is struggling is that the amateur boxers in America don’t get any media coverage anymore. Media coverage inspires them. When a boxer or tennis player is lost in the shadows, it can effect motivation. Amatuer boxing used to be on network TV, there were stars like Ray Leonard, Howard Davis, Jimmy Clark, John Tate who were stars even before they were pros. Amateur boxers get no attention for about a decade now, and consequently America isn’t producing any super talent boxers.

  • Scoop Malinowski · November 19, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    That’s a cool idea Andrew, Isner playing tennis on a giant court on an NFL astro turf field. Easy to do and would get people’s attention. Lacoste or Nike should just do it.

  • Gaurang · November 19, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    Yup this is a great idea for a commercial.

    Scoop, yes — exactly. Player dont get motivated enough if they know that even if they reach rank 55, nobody will even know them. They want attention, They want people to know them. They want to be stars, if not superstars. If they had that — then they would fight harder instead of being satisfied have a decent enough life being ranked #118.

    If you look at Spain, France, I am sure tennis is one of the most popular sports there.

    Lets take an example of media coverage.

    Go to Yahoo Sports ( http://sports.yahoo.com/ ) This is the default US version. You will see that Tennis is not even listed as a sport. There’s NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, NCAAF, NCAAB, NASCAR, Golf, MMA, Soccer, but NO TENNIS. You would have to actually click on “All Sports” and then pick tennis among the 100 or so sports listed.

    Now lets go to the UK version of the Yahoo Sports. (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/ ) You will see that right away Tennis is listed as the second sport after Football.

    Lets go to Spain’s version of Eurosports/ Yahoo Sports. ( http://es.eurosport.yahoo.com/ ). You will see Tennis is listed as third after Futbol and F1.

    Lets go to French version http://www.eurosport.fr/ You will see Tennis third after Football, Rugby.

    Basically, tennis in US is a dying sport. It needs attention.

  • Gaurang · November 19, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    Scoop, please can you approve my previous comment. I think it went for moderation since I had a lot of links in it.

  • Scoop Malinowski · November 19, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    Keen observations Gaurang about Yahoo. And outside of the majors and ESPN, tennis gets minimal coverage here. I think John McEnroe might be the most high profile tennis star in America now. Pete and Andre lay very low now and you rarely hear anything from them. Johnny Mac is out there, he was just in Toronto for his buddy Chris Chelios’s induction into the Hockey Hall of Fame. Also in my local paper today there is a photo of Johnny Mac wearing a yellow Harpo Marx style wig, he’s arguing a call during an exhibition match with Nishikori in Japan. Johnny Mac is still out there. But outside of him, American tennis at this time of year is pretty much in hibernation, media attention wise.

  • EddietheEagle · November 19, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    Ferrer hooked up with Del Moral at the TenisVal academy.
    No surprises why he plays as he does.

  • Scoop Malinowski · November 19, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    Wait. the NFL field might be too big. Might have to play quadruples on it – meaning four on each side. Maybe six a side. But it still would be a cool commercial.

  • EddietheEagle · November 19, 2013 at 9:35 pm

    Europe is more successful now as there’s greater intensity. Same population, broadly, but many more federations, coaches, centres of excellence and, above all, players. Ideas travel; the tennis academy with its training principle which originated in the U.S. is now well embedded in European tennis culture. For Eastern Europeans in particular tennis also offers that passport to life which I suspect is no longer the case in the U.S.

    I suspect tennis in the United States has reverted to a largely dilettante activity, much the same as in the U.K from where I hail and also that other traditional tennis nation, Australia. Here in good old England, the continuing splendour that is Wimbledon allied to the occasional success of a Henman or Murray masks all this. Tennis in the UK is even more moribund than in the U.S.A. though, as good denialists, some are saying (Yes, Rusedski did say this during the Davis Cup final) that now we’re back in the World Group, Team GB has chances for the trophy itself. Fat chance, in my view.

  • Andrew Miller · November 20, 2013 at 12:33 am

    Can Annacone help Sloane Stephens? I think this is Annacone’s biggest challenge yet. Helping Federer, Sampras – already champs. The U.K.? Almost impossible to tease out Annacone’s role. So this is it – we will see how good he really is and if coaches matter.

  • Andrew Miller · November 20, 2013 at 12:45 am

  • Marco Villanueva · November 20, 2013 at 1:04 am

    First I want to say sorry for my poor english but I analyzed the american tennis and have some reasons why it is out of rankings.
    I was a tennis coach 30 years, National Tester PTR and Coach Level II from ITF, Director of Tennis Coaches School from my National Association and Physical Education Teacher. I know some of Tennis.

    25 years ago USA dominates the world tennis with Sampras, Agassi, Courier, Chang, Evert, Navratilova, Roddick and others. USA had the best tennis infraestructure with stadiums, thousands of public tennis courts, and low equippment prices. But now it is not enough to reach the top tennis rankings.

    USA tennis have some problems:

    1.- Tennis must start learning about 4 – 6 years old if you want to be a world class player. In USA players starts tennis at the middle school and the teacher isn´t a tennis coach. Too late to start.

    2.- USA Tennis has not national structure and development model like european countries such Spain, France, Germany, Italy and the eastern countries like Ukrania, Checz Republic, Russia and others.

    3.- USTA move thousands of social tournaments in Leagues and neighbords, but it means nothing to make ATP or WTA players.

    4.- Al the fall of comunist sistem 1990, eastern coaches moved to occidental countries carrying knowledge and cientifically training methods. But they were cualified coaches with university degrees, it means TEACHERS, not only coaches with one week courses like USPTA and PTR. Coaches professional level is a big weak for american tennis. We can see the success of all the players from the east, they were formed for teaches and not only coaches.

    5.- USTA has the High Performance Level to some coaches who work or have worked with national players, but a question: Which is the work with base coaches who will send well trained players to high performance coach?
    If the great coach receive weak teen players, he will do nothing. At 17 years old a player could beat anyone if is pointing to the top and want to be at least top 50. Remember Courier, Sampras, Agassi, Chang, Becker, Graff, Williams sisters, Evert, and see they were superplayers before 18 years

    I hope you agree my words and take some good conclusions. I usually travel to USA and have very good friends.

    By

  • aj de leon · November 20, 2013 at 7:20 am

    Basically, tennis needs to fund itself. Its just too expensive with no incentives. less scholarships every year which means athletes play other sports. What the USTA or any tennis organization should do is what europe has been doing with club tennis. Sponsor athletes to train, give our players money to travel and compete i ternationally then showcase these juniors and promote their success locally as well as nationally. So even if there are no scholarships for the 50 and below, their parents can still pay for college because it wasnt their tab for 10 years. Instead of paying millions for tennis channel bullshit and Macs horrible commentating, give that money to those in our top 100. Give them the opportunities($) to make something out of themselves. Boot camp is a good idea, but would be short lived motivation once they go back into the real world with bills and expenses. USTA is just a corporation living of tje mo ey the US OPEN makes and the millions of wasted money on memberships from blinded families in rich neihborhoods around the country. Until this happens, USTS will continue to search for the next phenom, who will probably be a foreigner who was bought by IMG and made a citizen… good luck!

  • gustarhymes · November 20, 2013 at 7:36 am

    American tennis is definitely dead. We are not likely to have a GS champion for the next 5-10 years. Jack Sock is talented but does not have the right direction or coaching. AT least get a better coach.

    However, the world of tennis has changed. The major reason for America’s failure is the lack of red clay court training. The best players are trained on red clay. In the era of baselining, where serves are more equal among players, the best baseliners with the best strokes and footwork win. Hence, clay court supremacy. Roger, Rafa, Novak and even Murray are trained on red clay. Red clay allows players to play longer and train longer.

    Yes the slowing of the courts have an impact. But on average the hard courts are not slower. American players can’t use grass court spikes on clay anymore either. Just as the Australians of the 70s fell when metal spikes became illegal at Wimbledon and grass court tournaments. You all should read the excerpts of Bill Scanlon’s autobiography, and interviews with Rod Laver where he admitted he won the 69 US Open after he used metal spikes and Tony Roache forgot to bring his! In fact Bjorn Borg actually won Wimbledon in 1977-1979 having the Diadora nubs over all the players who had to wear conventional sneakers since metal spikes were not allowed. Only in 1980 were the nubs made by other companies. It’s in Bill Scanlon’s book!

    Things are more equal now. Also American players don’t have the benefit of home town tournaments as much as before. No home town referees, no shafted line calls against foreign players also has killed American tennis. American tennis players need to play better defense, get better groundstrokes and get fitter. The best bootcamp is a big dose of clay court training. Since Borg, the dominant players are mostly clay trained. And, yes, I still believe Sampras got lucky because of Thomas Muster’s knee injury, or there would have been clay court dominance of most of the slams of the 90s too!

    Gusta

  • Scoop Malinowski · November 20, 2013 at 8:33 am

    Thanks for all the comments everybody. There’s obviously a lot of flaws to fix. The lack of unity, even the juniors I have been told keep apart from the best competition because they don’t want to lose. American juniors stay apart at events whereas other countries are like teams together. Jack Sock is clearly talented but he doesn’t work hard enough, this is common knowledge. We’ll see who will take the bull by the horns, who has a vision to change the system.

  • Scoop Malinowski · November 20, 2013 at 8:39 am

    Fish just disappeared off into the sunset didn’t he. One of his last TV matches I distinctly remember his pal Gimelstob crowing about how Fish, with his smooth movements and easy style could play another six or seven years. Looks like Fish is going to quit, or already has quit tennis, with no fanfare or fancy sendoffs. No question, Annacone is under the gun working with Sloane. He MUST get big results. He comes in with the big resume working with Pete and Federer, Sloane is and hasn been right at the doorstep. Everything is on Annacone here to give Sloane the final push. Big pressure on Annacone here IMO. It’s easy to sit back and watch Federer and Sampras do their thing, now we’re gonna find out what Annacone has in his arsenal. Hope he can give Sloane the final push she needs to get over the hump. This is make or break for Annacone IMO.

  • Andrew Miller · November 20, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Sloane’s gotta slam. Klahn = Ginepri?

  • Nancy grimes · November 20, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    I agree particularly with Marco Villanueva comment number 4 that there are few really good teachers of tennis. When I talk with colleagues from other countries who have had some success developing players, they have had extensive university training in sport science and teaching methods and have had great mentors helping them along. A good /former player at the satellite or college level or a tennis enthusiast, doesn’t automatically make a good teacher. I also remember hearing a story from a well known national us coach who went over to Spain to see what the “miracle formula” was since Spain has been producing so many strong pros….his conclusion? ” They work their butts off over there, and we don’t.” So how would one answer the question, ” what is the US method of developing tennis player?”

  • Scoop Malinowski · November 20, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    Seles father Karol and Richard Williams did not have any notable tennis background, nor did Stefano Capriati or Jim Pierce or Mike Agassi. But they were able to create Hall of Fame calibre talent. Also I have heard of several examples of former top hundred players working with a talented teen – but nothing ever comes of it. Also there are many kids who have wealthy parents helping them to be come pros and they get the very best of coaching – but so many fail to pan out into something special. One thing is for sure, money can’t buy tennis stardom. Though surely a lot has been spent trying.

  • Dan Markowitz · November 20, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    I think tennis got too tied up with money in this country. i dont know what it costs to take a lesson in other countries, but here in the US, a private lesson can run from 70 to 300. That’s a lot of loot. I watch my son’s lessons–i only splurge for a 85 dollar private once in a while–but in his group lessons, I don’t get the idea that the pro has a systematic plan on how to develop a player.

  • gustarhymes · November 20, 2013 at 7:03 pm

    Actually Dan, 70-300 dollars an hour for a world class pro is in fact fair. If the lesson is indoor, the pro sometimes has to pay a court fee. Tennis isn’t cheap anywhere in the world, especially indoor. Outdoors, I understand paying 50-100 an hour, but if a player was a world class player, I think they earned the right to make a living doing tennis, and they are worth it.

    Money can’t buy tennis stardom, but it certainly helps. I do have to say, we have no excuses to make in the US, because all the money that the US Open makes is ridiculous, and I doubt most of it is used for player development. We should be developing more tennis clubs, and I believe all tennis clubs should be multi-surface; at least clay and hard court simultaneously.

  • Scoop Malinowski · November 20, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    Someone from IMG told me it’s not about love of the process of teaching kids and developing them to become tennis players anymore, “it’s all about numbers now. It’s all about numbers.”

  • Hernan Hernandez · November 20, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    The same dedication and training is required for most professional sports that American athletes excel at. How do you attract the best athletes to tennis when the newly professional tennis players lose $100,000 a year and the newly professional baseball, football and basketball players make hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars per year? Until young professional tennis athletes can earn comparable pay to other sports, the best US athletes will not choose to play tennis. How many kids can afford to commit to tennis even if they are highly skilled and passionate about the game?

  • Scoop Malinowski · November 20, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    Great comments Hernan. Never thought of it that way. Tennis and hockey are such expensive sports to succeed in.

  • Dan Markowitz · November 21, 2013 at 9:14 am

    300 dollars for a private lessons is a lot of money. i only know Gilad Bloom to charge that much. I know hockey equipment cost a lot of dough, and ice time is expensive,but you’re sharing it with an entire team. Think how much money SAmpras probably paid as a junior taking lessons from Lansdorp and Fischer and then all the travel and tournament expenses. That’s why love the stories of Agassi and Spadea because I know in Vince’s case that his father took Vince and his two sisters out to public courts and taught them all until Vince was 13 or so and started to get usta coaching.

    All the clubs around me in suburban NY are hard courts except for a few. And a number of those hard court indoor courts are very fast. My son is playing his first usta team match this weekend. He’s the No. 1 player on the 10 and under team and i have to drive all the way up to Somers for the match. HE’s only 7 but the traveling odyssey is already beginning. i’m lucky I’ve played with him a lot to defray costs, but one of the pros at his club asked me recently how many times a week he plays–I cant play with him now for 6 months because i just had rotator cuff surgery–and when i said, he only takes one group lesson a week and then plays matchplay, she looked at me disapprovingly.

    Sorry for the sloppy typing. i can only peck at the keys with my left hand. Finally, the Mardy Fish situation is surprising. Why would his anxiety issues allow him to play pro golf but not pro tennis?

  • Mitch · November 21, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    I would imagine that golf is a bit less stressful on the mind and heart than tennis.

  • Dan Markowitz · November 21, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    Yes, I imagine, but unless Fish doesn’t need to make a living, I’d think the tennis route is the more profitable.

  • Scoop Malinowski · November 21, 2013 at 7:02 pm

    Fish’s case is strange. All the matches he played this year were actually competitive, even the losses. He was right there in the mix, just needed to keep playing. He seemed perfectly healthy in the matches I saw. I have a slight inkling there could be more to this story than we were told.

  • gustarhymes · November 21, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    At Dan, Don’t you wish you were ambidextrous like me!

  • Andrew Miller · November 21, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    Is Fish Cilic?

  • Dan Markowitz · November 21, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    Fish hasn’t come clean with what is really upsetting him. I find it one of the most interesting stories in tennis. Just 2 years ago, he was playing almost Top 5 tennis. There’s a lot of contradictory elements to this story. How does a guy at 30 get into the best shape of his life, play his best tennis and then have heart problems? Did his huge lifestyle change shock his system?

  • Scoop Malinowski · November 21, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    Dan can play some good lefty tennis, Dan you should keep at it. I still play lefty, in fact I beat a pretty good friend of mine 64 this week, she’s a pretty good player, right Yeonah? :)haha

  • Scoop Malinowski · November 21, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    TO just ride off into the sunset like Fish has has an element of mystery to it. Just a short while ago Fish was the number one American. Now he’s a pro golfer? Did we miss something? Why didn’t Fish explain what happened? Seems like he could be hiding something.

  • Gaurang · November 21, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    Well, I dont have trouble believing Fish. I mean he has heartbeat issues where heartbeat can go a little faster, right? He could appear to be physically fit, but his heart rate may be elevated or something. Maybe he his missing beats. From the outside, such a person may appear to be completely normal.

    I am really sad to see him go though. He was a top 10, top 20 player. US needs more of them. I liked his game. He had no real weapons. He was good at serve, volley and forehand, but nothing was over the top. He used to earn wins by just being a better sensible player, with an attacking flair. Almost like a Blake, with different shots though (Fish’s forehand was nowhere as good as Blake’s). I used to always wonder how is he winning. I think he was better at point construction as well a bit?

    If he was still in top 15, people wouldnt be writing so many articles about the death of US Mens tennis. (3 players in top 20 … thats not bad)

    I still maintain a glimmer of hope that he can recover enough to play tennis, but him trying golf means the glimmer of hope is wavering. He appears to have decided that his heart cannot just sustain tennis. Its understandable, tennis demands more from your physique — probably 100x than what golf demands.

  • Gaurang · November 21, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    I expect too much maybe. I was still hoping for a Blake comeback when he suddenly announced retirement (just a few weeks after beating Jerzy).

  • Gaurang · November 21, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    How do you guys describe Fish’s game, and his ability to win matches? Like his 4-4 head-to-head versus Murray!!!??? In fact, he is 3-1 in the last 4 matches against him. Thats no mean feat. Murray is a tough, tough player and a 2-time Grand Slam Champion.

  • Dan markowitz · November 21, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    Fish had much more heart than Izzie or Q-ball. I actually liked way him him play a lot. He had a very fluid game other than his forehand and he improved that a lot. I think his serve was the prettiest in the game and he had very fine hands at the net. When tie backhand is as good as his, and you’re right his point construction was very good. Fish in his later years was just a tough competitor. His exit from the game is almost as mysterious as Soderling’s. A private detective is needed to uncover their true stories.

  • Scoop Malinowski · November 22, 2013 at 8:53 am

    Losing Fish was a huge loss, Gaurang. Great player. Top eight player, he actually made the WTF. That was a phenomenal achievement. Then the wheels came off the Fish Express. Suddenly. Maybe it was the pressure to defend all the points. Who knows. But he was always a great player who finally put it together at the end and had a couple years as an ATP elite. I remember many of his matches, he owned Murray for a while, beat him 2-3 times in a row, Murray was flustered by Fish’s game. He gave Fed and Djok tough battles. His record speaks for itself. Fish was a great player and American tennis misses him enormously.

  • Scoop Malinowski · November 22, 2013 at 8:58 am

    Why was Fish so successful at the end? He obviously got into phenomenal shape, losing 30 pounds. It changed his whole being. He always had the foundation of a solid baseline game with a big serve and good hands at net. Smart player with court sense. Getting into top shape took him to a new level. Also as I have said many times the knock from the journalist at US Open asking him if he was content just being a journeyman seemed to trigger something in Fish as he came back the next year a different player. Fish even admitted it to the journalist that he deserved credit for Fish’s success because of his “journeyman” comment/insult. You never know what can rouse a sleeping Giant. Fish proved in the end he was a sleeping Giant. Top eight in the world, WTF proved it.

  • Scoop Malinowski · November 22, 2013 at 9:00 am

    Can’t say Fish has more heart than Isner Dan. Isner is a beast of a warrior of a competitor. Fish and Isner are both big overachievers, they have achieved a lot more on the ATP tour than was expected from them. Both have phenomenal hearts. Querrey is still a sleeping Giant IMO, if he ever wakes up, he can do some damage and become a great player. Big question though, if he will ever wake up. He seems content where he is.

  • Dan Markowitz · November 22, 2013 at 11:33 am

    Querrey is not a big talent. He as overachieved more than Fish or Izzie. Can you call any pro a great competitor if in long careers they never reached a slam semis? I don’t think Fish has near the weapon Isner has and Fish had some nice Wimbledon while Izzie hasn’t.

    On another note, what’s happened to Brian Baker? He made his re-comeback in the summer and then disappeared.

  • Mitch · November 22, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    Baker had to have another surgery this summer, though apparently it was a relatively minor one.

  • Scoop Malinowski · November 22, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    I think Querrey is a big talent. Top 20 in the world some nice wins. Would you say Vince was a “big talent”??

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