Shanghai Rolex Masters 2017, ATP Masters 1000

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  1. britbox

    britbox Multiple Major Winner

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    Just been watching the highlights. Good match.

     
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    the AntiPusher Grand Slam Champion

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    Carol..this was one of his best performances of the year. I wished he would have been able to play Roger 30 minutes afterwards his match vs the Fog..He is ready for Roger if he continuously perform at this high level
     
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    Front242 The GOAT

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    Nadal has had some very good results on outdoor hard court which this is. His worst surface is indoor hard court. Basel, Paris, WTF are all indoor so it's still a case of wait and see how indoor season goes.
     
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    brokenshoelace Grand Slam Champion

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    The surface was taking Nadal's spin very well in Beijing, which surprised me. I know it's an outdoor hard court, but the surface is typically low bouncing. It still is, but Nadal is hitting with real ferocity. I haven't seen either of his matches in Shanghai yet though.
     
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  5. Carol

    Carol Grand Slam Champion

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    I've always thought Shanghai Central court is Indoor

    http://en.shanghairolexmasters.com/?p=3506
     
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    Fed looks healthy so I think he can get past Potro this time.
     
  7. Carol

    Carol Grand Slam Champion

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    Yep, his serve, BH and confidence is working great which is the best combination to get such a good results. He is finishing the matches pretty quick but tomorrow against Dimi probably it will be a little tougher, we'll see
     
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    GameSetAndMath The GOAT

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    Isn't Beijing outdoor tourney?
     
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    No, it's outdoor. The roof is closed I guess when there's rain but the link you posted above has this link also.

    http://en.shanghairolexmasters.com/?p=3442

    "It was an unseasonably hot day with bright sunshine on Tuesday in Shanghai, which meant the players had to bring all the fortitude they could muster to their matches. The 12th-seeded John Isner and 73rd-ranked qualifier Dusan Lajovic of Serbia were first to experience the heat on stadium court.

    The weather, as it turned out, made no difference to these two warriors as they battled it out on Centre Court. They persevered until Isner finally ruled the day with a 4-6, 7-6 (5), 7-6 (6) first-round win. The match loss was a real heartbreaker for Lajovic, who never surrendered his serve, saving all four break points he faced.

    Isner understood that luck was with him in winning the encounter, quite probably since he’s played – and captured – similar matches in the past. “I don’t think I had any business winning that match, but that’s the reality of my game sometimes,” Isner said. “I was very fortunate to win that one. The conditions were brutal. It felt like Atlanta in August. I think that could’ve been the hottest match I played all year.”

    Google search also shows this.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Shanghai_Rolex_Masters

    "The 2017 Shanghai Rolex Masters is a tennis tournament played on outdoor hard courts. It is the ninth edition of the Shanghai ATP Masters 1000, classified as an ATP World Tour Masters 1000 event on the 2017 ATP World Tour. It is taking place at Qizhong Forest Sports City Arena in Shanghai, China from October 8 to October 15, 2017."
     
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    Carol Grand Slam Champion

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    Well, while the roof is closed it doesn't make any difference with the "Indoor tournaments" so I'm glad to see Rafa playing so well on this fast surface, its a good preparation for Bercy and London
     
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    Yes, outdoor also.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_China_Open_(tennis)

    "The 2017 China Open was a tennis tournament played on outdoor hard courts. It was the 19th edition of the China Open for the men (21st for the women). It was part of ATP World Tour 500 series on the 2017 ATP World Tour, and the last WTA Premier Mandatory tournament of the 2017 WTA Tour. Both the men's and the women's events were held at the National Tennis Center in Beijing, China, from October 2 to October 8, 2017."
     
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    As I said earlier, Nadal has always had very good results for the most part on outdoor hard courts but a lot of people confuse the Asian swing for indoor and these Asian tournaments are outdoor. It remains to be seen still how he's playing on indoor hard courts and outdoor hard court is very different than Bercy and London. The Paris indoor court sucks imo but in terms of which surface is closest to the ATP courts in London, it's Basel that provides the best practice in terms of similar court dynamics. I don't like the WTF courts last few years much either but they're night and day different to these outdoor events. Nadal's top spin is way less effective indoors and that's why his results there have been poor. He can't pin opponents into the backhand corner and his forehand is nowhere near as effective as on other surfaces.

    Confidence helps though and he's playing very well right now.
     
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    Gentleman's Singles, Quarterfinals OOP for Friday, October 13, 2017

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    Yeah it is. Typo. The post wouldn't make sense otherwise.
     
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    I am so sorry for Dimitrov. The second tournament in a row, he plays excellent tennis. But he always meets Nadal, who is hardly beatable today. What a pity for Grigor.
     
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    Results from the Shanghai Masters Men's Singles Quarterfinal matches on Friday
    1-Rafa Nadal (Spain) beat 6-Grigor Dimitrov (Bulgaria) 6-4 6-7(4) 6-3
    4-Marin Cilic (Croatia) beat Albert Ramos (Spain) 6-3 6-4

     
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    ^^^ For now I think it's Nadal. Roger has the advantage of beating him soundly this year (ironic), but let's not ignore that he skipped the entire clay court season where he didn't have a real chance at winning much. In a way, this protected his results this season (not that it was his priority to do so. He clearly did it to be fresh for grass, wisely).

    However, this is typically Roger's time of the year and if he's playing well, he's just better than Nadal on these types of surfaces so it wouldn't surprise me if Roger won at least a Masters and the WTF, which could well make him the POTY.
     
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    Federer - Gasquet technically wise the best match of attacking tennis I've seen this year.
     
  20. Federberg

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    Really? I didn't watch it, just surprised to hear that. I thought Kyrgios v Federer was pretty good in the spring
     
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