Game of Thrones (TV Show)

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  1. Nekro

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    I just checked the cast on imdb, there are enough Americans there, anyway, it's an American HBO crap.... i didn't say what percentage of the actors was American lol...... ofc for the accent they put some brits in it, but my point was that it's a lowlife junk series that's not worth watching.... i tried to get into it 2 times but it sucks major balls....

    from Wiki: Game of Thrones is an American fantasy drama television series created by David Benioff and D. B. Weiss
     
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    That's your opinion mate. Those of us posting on this thread generally disagree with you. Do we care about your view? I'm guessing.... not
     
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    I don't care about your views either... I was just giving voice to my negative opinion..... OFC the fanboys are not gonna like what i write but it's good to help the readers out there, you know maybe some of them haven't checked out this show yet....

    Btw i know now why so many of those GoT actors look inbred.......

    The heck, this guy is American and looks inbred too:facepalm::

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    He's the only main character on the show that is played by an American actor. And no we don't really care about the opinion of a guy who has seen two scenes from the show which took place in seasons 3 and 4. Watch the whole show and then see if you think those scenes are still stupid.
     
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    don't encourage him mate. The less I have to hear from him the better! :lol6:

    Btw.. you remember the leader of the slave princes/ Masters (in Meeren)? The one who's throat got cut? He's the brother of one of my mates. So embarrassed, I didn't realise it was him until my mate told me in passing. Didn't recognise him at all!
     
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    if you go to 33secs on this clip, you'll see him. He's the guy on the left...(actually if you see the same initial image as me before pressing play, he's on the right)
     
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    Wow that's awesome. It'd be amazing to be on that show even just a small role. Lucky guy
     
  8. Nekro

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    can't you read bro? i just wrote i don't care about the fanboys' opinion, i'm writing stuff for the readers lol...

    Yeah, i admit i watched only those 2 scenes, the second one cause my gf was watching it but i gave it a chance anyway but i didn't like the general vibe, sensationalist crap....

    maybe when i get some chilling time i'll watch the whole show with more patience just for the heck of it.....

    Is Cracky watching this show? He must be loving it, he loves midgets......
     
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    y. Think he's moving to Hollywood now. He's been in other stuff apparently, but this is the big break for him.
     
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    I read you just fine. And yes you should watch GOT, there's a reason it's one of if not the most highly rated show there's ever been.
     
  11. Nekro

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    I know it's popular, my friends+gf are all watching it...

    Anyway, i found lots of people who read the books and watched the show and say it's bad:

    http://thelma.com/2015/05/20/unpopular-opinion-hbos-game-of-thrones-is-bad/

    Brace yourselves. A rare and extremely vitriolic opinion is coming.

    I think—and have thought since its premiere in 2011—that HBO’s exceedingly popular and critically acclaimed show Game of Thrones is, in a word, shitty. I am (or at least have been made to feel) very much alone in this opinion. I am on the opposite side of the Wall while seemingly everyone else in society who doesn’t live under a pop culture-shaped rock chills at Castle Black and drinks some ale out of a goblet.

    Y’all can chill up there with your opinions (which you’re entitled to) and your ale and your rickety ass castle, as far as I’m concerned. I’ll be over here with the Wildlings wylin’ out and knowing what’s really up in the world. Because listen: I have read the books. And by “the books,” I mean the first three books, which is about 2,000 pages of my life I can never get back. I won’t go full Don Draper and pitch you on this opinion so you ultimately agree with me, I’m just trying to elevate the critical discussion about a show that I feel is too readily praised by viewers and pretty much critic-proof.

    So why do I even watch the show each week (and I do) if I purportedly hate it so much? Honestly, I sort of just inexplicably find myself frantically connecting to HBOGo every Sunday mostly due to muscle memory and habit, but partially because the show is, on a technical and aesthetic level, superb. The cinematography, locations, set design, costumes, and even the wacky alt-universe Byzantium hairstyles are some special kind of visual porn (though the show lacks for nothing in actual porn). I also suffer from a raging case of pop culture FOMO. But for me, this is where the show’s merits stop. Let’s dive in:

    The Opening Credits
    Let’s start at the beginning, with literally the beginning of the show: those opening credits. Here are some things I/you could do instead of sit through 1:42 of the Leading Contender in New Songs Guantanamo Bay Could Use as Torture Devices:

    • Fast forward through it, but we all know the struggle too well of getting the timing just right and not missing some vital dialogue or beloved character being slaughtered.
    • Microwave a personal mini-bag of popcorn.
    • Call your mom to let her know you’re alive after that morning’s brunch.
    • Become thoroughly confused when a new place shows up on the map in the credits and search Google frantically for the meaning of it.
    The Acting
    The acting is subpar. Every single actor (and therefore every single character) on this show is good at one thing (I call this the “Hodor Effect”). If they happen to be blessed by both the Old Gods and the New, they might be good at two things.

    • Kit Harington/Jon Snow: mopes. Alternatively: shivers. Alternatively alternatively: knows nothing, which isn’t really a narrative or personal asset.
    • Maisie Williams/Arya: asks annoying questions that somehow have managed to go unanswered while aggressively grows her hair out from that super awk bowlcut.
    • Lena Headey/Cersei: throws shade/bitches about bitches.
    • Sophie Turner/Sansa: floats through her admittedly very hard life with doe eyes and a long-expired naïveté.
    • Peter Dinklage/Tyrion: drinks. Alternatively: complains about being a dwarf.
    • Nikolaj Coster-Waldau/Jaime: Pre-handlessness: patronizes. Post-handlessness: bumbles.
    • Gwendoline Christie/Brienne: is so earnest it physically hurts to watch.
    • Daniel Portman/Pod: is so earnest it physically hurts to watch.
    • Aidan Gillen/Littlefinger: schemes/plots.
    • Alfie Allen/Theon: human personification of the World’s Smallest Violin.
    • Conleth Hill/Varys: drops knowledge.
    • Iain Glen/Jorah: pines for Daenerys.
    • Emilia Clarke/Daenerys: she don’t need no man because she’s an independent ass woman but also she can’t control her children/dragons and is really clueless about how the world works but has great intentions!
    • Michiel Huisman/Daario: pines for Daenerys while looking hot.
    • Natalie Dormer/Margaery: snatches weaves.
    • Dean-Charles Chapman/Tommen: plays with Ser Pounce.
    • Kristian Nairn/Hodor: Hodors.
    • Iwan Rheon/Ramsay Bolton: rapes, murders, tortures, you know. Just your garden variety sociopath.
    The list above doesn’t do the full cast or character list even close to justice, because there are squillions of people on this show and none of them make wise decisions or are remotely compelling in a narrative sense. Even the Watch the Thrones podcast has a weekly segment dedicated to figuring out just who the hell that one character was that you couldn’t recognize or remember. Lastly, and really think about this: do you actually care about any of those squillions of characters? Like, would you be devastated if one of them died, or would you be all, “Oh, GRRM. You dog, you!” Let that percolate and get back to me.

    Everyone on #GameOfThrones has a bad idea, and every week we get to watch those ideas prove themselves to be bad. Riveting television.

    — Nick Bachan (@nickbachan) May 18, 2015

    The Execution
    This Talking TV with Ryan and Ryan podcast episode made the point that Game of Thrones is the Lazy Susan of television shows. As Ryan McGee so astutely asserts (43:25), it’s just a “bunch of five minute scenes that rarely are interconnected.” This show is exhausting. Westeros is, for all intents and purposes, Medieval/Renaissance Europe in a parallel universe. What this adds to the world—a rustic frame of reference and lots and lots of mud and petticoats—is far surpassed by what it detracts—expediency and efficiency. Everything takes three times the effort and infinity times the time to accomplish. This means several things: characters are separated by hundreds of miles with no means of communication except trusty ravens, plotlines are molasses slow, and the audience doesn’t get to know anything unless a character actually witnesses it themselves.1 Even if Benioff and Weiss have done an admirable job (sometimes to the dismay of avid book fans) of condensing and yadda-yaddaing GRRM’s meandering tomes, there are still entire episodes where literally nothing of importance happens (yet someone still manages to die and/or rape and/or fuck something up).

    The Tone
    Maybe it’s just me, but this show feels almost completely devoid of joy. Every time I watch it, I find myself sitting and staring at the screen and questioning why I just subjected myself to such misery. No one ever wins in this show. There are no triumphant booyahs or quiet fist pumps. Every single character is sad, either because the world they live in has made them that way or because they themselves are living the consequences of their shitty choices. The kingdom of the Iron Throne is a bleak, bitter, and hateful place where, personally, I find the people to be of commensurate character. Crime in HBO’s Westeros is, as they say, on fleek. Women (and men) are raped and objectified, children are manipulated and traumatized, and innocent bystanders are murdered. I understand this is a fictional world with an ethos and zeitgeist that GRRM has labored over (which I respect very much), but I as a viewer prefer my TV shows to be in some way rewarding. But this show? This show leaves me cold and unfeeling and like I might want to castrate someone.

    And yet. There I am, each and every Sunday night, watching the same depressing, one-dimensional characters slog through the same undignified world, each fervently hoping in their own way that their toils will somehow make an impact. Maybe I am the same way. Maybe each Sunday I am hoping that my singular viewership will karmically ripple out and make this show better; maybe I am really hopewatching instead of hatewatching. I can’t ever be sure. I was watching each week to accrue reasons to hate it, which I think I’ve enumerated here in full. So maybe this is my catharsis—my version of eating a horse heart or becoming no one—and my interests will finally die. Because, as they say, valar morghulis.

    Another person:

    Love this article. You are not alone! I’m so glad I’m not alone in this! The show seems to think the misery is its own porn. Maybe I’m just not masochistic enough.
    One thing missing from this article: How utterly rambling and meaningless the storylines are. Like “the golden age of television” ie – Gilligan’s Island – the show resets itself right back to the beginning on every story over and again. Arya: learns to fight, loses her home, tortured and abused, finds new home, learns to kill, kicked out, tortured and abused. Tyrion: Drinks. Now he’s risen to power. Now he’s lost it. Now he’s risen to power. More drinking. Ramsay: sees a chance for more power, tortures people, sees a chance for more power, tortures people. Most frustratingly: the Khaleesi. Sold into slavery, rises to power, raises dragons, loses dragons, returns to being a slave. Ugh. I think I really am going to stop watching this meaningless and empty period soap opera.

    Another guy:

    My sister had the first and second season, and binge watched them for months on the only television we had. I really can’t understand how anyone can actually like such garbage.

    Aside from all the disgusting crap in it, the bad story line/telling, etc., etc., the acting is so bad it belongs in some b-rate straight to dvd movie. How can anyone enjoy it whatsoever?

    My friends have tried to tell me the books are better, they would have to be even if it’s just because you don’t have to sit through the awful forced accents.


    Another negative opinion:

    You don't like if someone does not like the show. Many people don't like the show and get back lash. I do have reasons for not liking the show.

    I will name a few.Tons...

    1. Plot holes

    2. dialogue is boring.

    3. Barely any magic.

    4. Lies about being a dark fantasy. Berserk is a dark fantasy, not game of thrones.

    5. Characters are dull, boring and bland.

    6. The tactics don't make sense.

    7. good guys are either stupid, gullible, or both.

    8. Evil in the show is a joke. I feel Marik Istatar from Yugioh abridged is more evil, and threatening.

    9. They use sex trying to get you interested.

    10.actors don't know how to act, like the actor who plays Gentry.

    11. Try to find a plot here is like trying to find acting in porn.
     
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    I won't even bother reading all of that. Speaking as someone who also read the books. I accepted that I was never going to like the show as much as the books. That's fine. It's extremely unusual for films/series to match up with the original books. Go onto any Jack Reacher fan forum and read the rage of fans appalled at the casting of Tom Cruise in a role that should have a 6ft 6 brick shithouse as the main star. Show's still good. You just have to accept it on it's own terms. Besides there are always people who like to set themselves apart. I've nothing against that. I have my own views, which I express robustly on this forum for instance. In actual fact posters like you and Obsi are perfect examples! And look how much attention we pay to your views :lol6:
     
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    I watched the show before reading the books which is the opposite of most people and I know that affects my views when comparing them. I think the books are great and the show is even greater.

    People who read the books first tend to hate every change the show has made, small and big. Whereas I think the vast majority of the changes have been great. And I only read over some of those critical reviews above and stopped after seeing that one of the complaints was subpar acting. Subpar to what exactly? I'd like to hear what show those chumps think has better acting. The characters/acting is a big part of what makes the show outstanding to most viewers.
     
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    Yeah mate, we're all going to read this.
     
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    Dudezor, you're not forced to, i just put it out there for the folks to read, you can just skip it with your little eyes, like you know you can also skip the posts of people you don't like, but it seems some people need the ignore function for that, i guess in private schools they don't teach simple stuff like that....

    I just gave you my general impression that i based on 2 scenes i saw, and the fanboys attacked me with silly stuff..... mind it , i watched it in Italian so i didn't have a way of knowing so many actors were British (i'm not gonna fact check all i say about another trash series like i don't read up on walking dead either and all those junk series, i was telling my general impression, nothing more), and i didn't even say there were only American actors there..... if i wanted to nitpick i could say the muslim extremist acting people who were throwing stuff at the naked chick sure as fuck had a much smaller percentage of Brits among them than among the main actors but i'm not the nitpicker type.....

    BTW, i saw Darth said the acting is good, i found an article where they say there's tons of bad acting in the series...

    http://whatculture.com/tv/game-of-thrones-10-actors-whose-acting-is-distractingly-bad
     
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    So you're admitting to arguing about a topic in which you know little about, having seen 2 scenes only, and in which the two scenes in question were dubbed?
     
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    Have to wonder if that person read the books, because of the characters are written a certain way. I thought Sophie Turner was bad until I read the books and realized that the character is supposed to be bland, naive, and completely self-centered at first. She's done great, her character development is up there with anyone on the show aside from maybe Jaime. And Maisie Williams was born to play Arya, also a very difficult character to portray from tomboy, to survivor, to stone-cold assassin. And complaining about a small issue with Littlefinger's accent? It's not enough to be that noticeable, we aren't talking Daniel Craig playing James Bond and not having a British accent. Now THAT was distracting, Littlefinger...not so much.

    Kind of agree about Kit Harrington (Jon Snow), he isn't bad but I don't find him or the character terribly interesting. And I'm probably alone in that because everyone else counts him as one of their favorite characters. When I read the books I'd skip over the chapters on the Night's Watch, incredibly boring stuff. The show did well in making it semi-interesting early on when barely anything of note happened there for much of the first 2.5 books. Kit isn't bad, i just think the character is just kind of a bland all-good hero.
     
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    No, i simply stated that i found the scenes that i saw disgusting and sensationalist and some people couldn't accept it, that's what happened lol... Never said that i'm the biggest GoT nerd here and that i know all about the series lol....

    However, no worries, i'll watch this series because gf is watching it too....

    last tv series i watched was a kid's series, Merlin and a turkish one, Suleyman.... and those ones not for my own sake either....

    GoT annoys me slightly cause everybody's watching it like some hive-minded zombies, that's all, so i wanted to say something bad about it based on what i saw of it.....
     
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    ^ If you'd bothered watching the rest of the show then the scene of Cersei's walk of shame had a lot of context. It's popular for a reason... and includes plenty of accomplished award winning actors.
     
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    Episode 5 Trailer:



    We know it's called Eastwatch and the Night King was heading there... plenty of action in the north probably.

    Interesting clip with Jon Snow and the dragon. Wonder if the dragon has figured out he's part Targaryen? Jon doesn't even know this himself yet... Any weird possibility of the dragons changing allegiance from Dany to Jon?
     
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