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Two Sets Vs A WTA Pro

With one public park open in Bradenton and Sarasota and two main hitting partners both afraid to play because of fear of virus and fear of being arrested, I am starving to play some real tennis instead of hitting on a wall or driving over an hour to Tampa where a friend plays at open Compton Park.

To the rescue came a WTA ranked pro who is training regularly at the unlocked Bradenton courts. She agreed to play me two sets for $20 each if she wins.

I jumped at the deal despite the fact I have not played a real match against a tough player in a month. My last match was a 62 61 win vs. a 5.0 at Gillespie Park in Sarasota which has since been locked. I felt at my best that day, saving so many break points and game points and making the scoreline look like a blowout though it really was a tough battle. Since then it’s just been pick up hits and wall hits .

Anastasia is 17 and ranked 845 in the world from having earned WTA points in Cancun last year. We played a ten point tiebreak last week as the price for me giving up my court, she prevailed 10-4.

But this time I had my favorite racquet the Head Speed Pro, not the less maneuverable Yonex ezone.

In the warm up I hit two backhands into the middle of the net, which never happens when I’m match tough. But now everything is off. And Nastia’s shots are pro shots so it made it even harder to get a rhythm and rebuild confidence.

She took a 3-0 lead quickly and easily. I tried feeling her out and just keep the ball deep and hope for errors but that tactic failed miserably. Her groundstrokes are too solid, too consistent. She hits almost daily with her father Andrei Cherkasov, a former ATP champion.

My backhand could not cause her any trouble at all, no matter how deep I put it or wide, she teed off on my backhand feeds and either hit a winner up the line or just beat me up until the error.

6-0 in about 19 minutes. She broke me again to start the second set but I started to hit my forehands harder and they started to do damage. I broke her for 1-1. I had a break point in the next game but failed and was broken again. My serve was ineffective though I did hit a few good ones which she returned long or side. Maybe three tops. But I noticed clearly her returns were eating up my serve.

My only success came from blasting forehands about as hard I could hit, inside out forehands or cross court from an acute angle. I still remember controlling the middle of the court and setting up, loading, and unleashing three inside out forehands in a row with the last one being clean winner. I won two points like that in the second set. That felt really good. And if anyone on the adjacent courts saw them, they knew I wasn’t just some clown enduring a one-sided shellacking.

I tried to will myself on with some cmon roars and I was feeling ready to take over the match but those dreams were futile fantasies.

Another rare highlight in this beatdown was ripping forehand cross court returns like Djokovic vs Federer that she got to but netted up the line, missing by an inch or two. I won about two points this way.

I also hit two inside our forehand return winners late in the second set, shots I rarely try against lesser opponents because I’m not desperate but one good thing about this experience is I now know I have that shot and will use it more.

When you’re getting killed you savor the highlight moments with extra appreciation. Those big shots erase the memory of blowing some game points in the second set to actually make it a competitive set. 6-3 or 6-2 I’m not even sure what it was. Big shots help you forget all the stupid misses you made on pretty much neutral balls.

Oh, the positive memories are coming back now. I won two points from drop shots from my backhand. One in each set. Not easy to do that off of pro shots. Those were the only two backhands I hit to win any points the entire match. My backhand was like a feed ball for her. She never missed any. She never missed a passing shot either. I don’t remember hitting one good volley in the two sets. And I’m known down here for my volleys.

Anastasia, who plays with a green and black Dunlop, has all the shots, she doesn’t miss volleys, I didn’t make her hit any overheads. Her serve is okay, it can be better. I once played the since retired Michelle Larcher De Brito when she was 240 in the world, a couple of years after she beat Maria Sharapova at Wimbledon – she beat me 6-1 though I had a break point for 5-2 in the set – and the difference between Michelle and Anastasia is minimal or nothing.

After we finished, her mom noted my forehand return winner from ad court to save match point and offered that she thinks I can do better next time.

Kata admitted her daughter was surprised by some of my forehands but I also confessed it was partly due to her mentally falling asleep too because she was winning so easily. And Kata brought up the memory that when she was trying to go pro she would play one of her sponsors who was a rec player and she would play from love-40 down each game, which is a good way to force a player to be mentally concentrated on every point, every ball, instead of thinking a shot or two ahead. If she won the match from love-40 down, the sponsor would pay for the next travel expenses, if Kata lost, she had to pay him a sum.

I felt there was enough respect to do this again, but the rematch may have to wait because I got Anastasia into the Harry Cicma International Tennis Series women’s series which will begin on May 4 at Saddlebrook and will continue for sixteen weeks. The format there will be like Cicma’s Bradenton men’s series, three or four matches a day, sets to four, three or four times a week, $500 per week. Any women or girl with a WTA ranking can play.

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120 comments

  • catherine · May 3, 2020 at 3:27 am

    The majority of people in the UK are in favour of the lockdown because it’s seen to be working.
    Maybe we have different feelings about the word ‘freedom’.

  • catherine · May 3, 2020 at 3:39 am

    Jon – no kids are going to have their lives ‘ruined’ by having to stay inside for a few weeks. And 90 year olds have as much right to their lives as anyone else. At least that’s what I believe. We’re not primitive tribes who out of necessity have to let the weakest fall by the wayside. Keeping a temporary lockdown is the best way of ensuring, with luck, we won’t have to make that choice.

  • jackson · May 3, 2020 at 5:16 am

    https://textsaver.flap.tv/lists/3cqe

    [snip]
    Javier: You said that you reached a moment when you would need to reinvent yourself after a success. Last time Rafa won RG I was narrating and I mentioned a line from a songwriter that said that it’s harder to overcome success, it’s easier to overcome failure, one can fight and work harder and see your mistakes but success is much harder. With your experience and closeness with Rafa, what does he do to keep evolving?

    Charly: That’s what I admire the most about him and these great players. They win a tournament and they are already thinking of the next competition. That’s what separates them from us mortals. I mentioned I was objective based and high objectives but in the end they were just goals that I would achieve and then I was demotivated. My goal wasn’t to win 5 grand slams, it was to win 1 grand slam. It was to be number 1, not number 1 for several years. Then I was empty, I lacked ambition. I was comfortable with the goals I achieved and then I felt down immediately, like after that Davis Cup. With Rafa I see that hunger he has, being at this stage of his career regardless of what he has already achieved and what he goes through, I live day by day with him and see how he struggles mentally during the year, and then I see that when the moment comes, he gets this strength I don’t know where from. I don’t think it is coachable, it is in his genes. If someone knew how to teach that, you could coach them and maybe you can lead him in some way but there’s something innate that allows the 3 big ones of history to keep making this career they have and how they keep competing. For me, after the grand slam I won, I went afterwards to Halle, afterwards I went home, and I spent two weeks partying. I was number 1 and before Miami I was already partying. These guys when they win they celebrate and in a couple of days they are training again to win the next thing. The ambition they have and the need to keep getting better, their competitiveness, is something out of the ordinary.

    Alex: It is hard for me to transmit how incredible Rafa is and what his achievements are. We are narrating and people sometimes say to us that it looks as if Rafa was paying us to make say all those things, I don’t know how to explain that what Rafa does doesn’t exist, people think I exaggerate and you are here and you are a GS champion and an ex number 1, he doesn’t do that once, he does it time after time, what do you feel? You are with him day by day, I want people to see that someone inside also feels this,

    Charly: The deeper you are and the longer you are – you realise how admirable he is even more, what he is and does, it is hard for me to criticize Rafa, even when people say that he isn’t playing well and he loses, but I know he’s done his best. It’s impossible to criticize him, after all he’s achieved but more than that, the attitude that he has everyday. In each match I am reassured in knowing that he’s gonna give everything and do his best, that you are going to have to kill him in order to beat him. In my time, the match started to get difficult and- Not Alex but,

    Alex: Me too, you’d throw away matches. But Rafa even training, from the first ball his intensity is immeasurable,

    Charly: You have to stop him while training. I don’t think that he knows this… During tournaments, on training days, I ask workers to give us a court that someone has to come later to ask us to leave. (Laughter), every other coach wants the opposite, more time and hours, I ask them to please give us a court but make sure that someone comes later to force us to leave, I don’t want him to be practicing more than certain hours, in some tournaments more, in some less but if it was up to him, he’d keep going and going and you have to stop him and if the court is empty is difficult to force him. Now he’s starting to understand but at the start… Workers were confused, didn’t I mean a court where no one came? I’d say no no, give us a court where within the hour someone needs it please. But that’s Rafa, how perfectionist and self demanding he is, he doesn’t himself allow mistakes. It is a pleasure to be with him, you don’t find someone who gives you that assurance that he’s gonna fight and face the match whether he’s playing good or badly. If you made me choose whom to rest my life on, I would choose him.

    Javier: It always looks like he’s playing the same match, no matter if it is round 1, semis, final, Federer, Djokovic or a lucky loser but to have someone who seems to understand so well, as a coach what do you make of the situation to present to him ideas? There are things that he may not see, but how easy is it for you to suggest or correct him?

    Charly: One of the great things about him is how open he is to listen and keep learning and getting better. I know that whatever I say he is going to decide what to take. I know I am dealing with one of the greater in history, I won’t be right all the time, but whatever I say to him I have already thought it through, i have analyzed it before I say it to him. When I started he had already won 14 grand slams, so I knew he could very much question what I say and I’m sure he does it still sometimes, but as long as one idea helps him. His greatness is to be so open to keep evolving, and one of the keys was that I came after 2 bad years when he had a lot of issues, mentally, he had anxiety and injuries. When you change something in the team means that the player isn’t at their best so it was easier for him to be more open to this new voice. All the team went for the change, I knew very well what Rafa could improve and everyone agreed. All can improve, perfection in tennis is never achieved, there’s something that you can always improve, and we all knew wha Rafa could improve. I was very open to him from the start, and he was willing to listen, he agreed on many things and we worked on them.

    Alex: We could talk with you for four hours, but sincerely I don’t think you could ever coach someone else.

    Charly: Yes, I know that. Our relationship is above all. I know him since he was 11, we’ve lived so many things inside and outside the court. These days I am watching old videos, we have lived so many things as friends and partners. This factor impacts everything, what you feel during a match, it is hard to separate, to see someone who you’ve seen evolved since he was 11 and he’s a best friend and to see him achieve all he has when you are with him. That emotional factor will be impossible to have with anyone else, unless my son and he won’t, but the only thing that would come equally to this is to live the same with a son, there’s a huge emotional factor. To live this with him and see him break records, first as the youngest and now as the oldest, makes you feel very proud and makes it hard to live something similar again.

    Javier: Do you feel this hard stop would make it harder for Rafa and Federer to come back, they had a rhythm and a focus that may not be easy to get back. Do they have a bigger challenge compared to the younger ones to come back?

    Charly: I think that now everything is a question, we don’t know who has been the most affected. Some will be more affected than others for sure, it is hard to see. If you are older you do have less time on court, maybe they were able to rest but it is time that is lost, the younger ones will have more time to make up for this year lost but I can’t tell you who is the more affected, perhaps Djokovic since he had a big run but not being able to play the clay season affected Rafa too, within the 3 maybe the less affected was Federer. His timing was great (laughter) but he had to come back to Wimbledon without much competition and as great as he is it was never going to be easy for him. But anything we can say right now is speculation, we’ve never lived through a situation like this.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 3, 2020 at 7:31 am

    Jackson thanks for sharing. It’s the best interview I ever read about Rafa. Not a reveals so much detail and insight here. Love this.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 3, 2020 at 7:36 am

    Jon congrats on your wonderful life. But dark forces of satan want to ruin and invert our wonderful beautiful world. And this man-made bio weapon is a prelude to elites activating vaccines and chipping.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 3, 2020 at 7:37 am

    Please watch http://www.outofshadows.org to awaken to what evil forces are doing.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 3, 2020 at 7:39 am

    Maher is a Satanist pedofile. Supposedly the son of Hugh hefner. Trudeau is the son of Fidel Castro.

  • catherine · May 3, 2020 at 8:22 am

    Apologies for the chaos – repetitions etc. in my comments. There’s nothing I can do to fix it.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 3, 2020 at 8:37 am

    Bio weapon. https://twitter.com/1Naasty/status/1256836821373186048

    Communist China was a DS creation from conception.
    Russia was it’s first victim, then on to China in the 1930’s to continue their plan for world control and a utopian nightmare. Mao was their pupil, trained and financed in the ways of despotism.
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    BioWeapon? A dud then.
    In time we will find that the effects of the coronavirus were financial and the health factor similar to the flu.
    Overhyped by the media in US for the benefit of the Democrats and naturally Australia follows their media to a tee. Word for word mostly.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 3, 2020 at 8:43 am

    Through out history, the Rothschild/$$ people have pitted country against country. Financing both sides to put then both in more debt. Why would this be any different?

    China working with the Deep State… They are the model being used for Dictatorial Global Government.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 3, 2020 at 8:44 am

    of course its bio. Wuhan is a biowarfare center. Even though the illuminati planned an attack for 2020, this was an accident as the Chinese scrambled to get it under control. Now ahead of schedule the NWO is moving forward with their plans

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 3, 2020 at 9:17 am

    Demonrats are evil or mentally ill…

    “They release violent criminals from prison so they won’t get corona. They arrest regular citizens for trying to WORK and they arrest them and put them in jail. How does that work?”

  • Jon King · May 3, 2020 at 9:49 am

    catherine, okay, saying kids lives were ruined was hyperbole. And I can only speak for the US.

    In the US we have 2 extremes. One extreme thinks we should have zero government rules regarding the virus and everyone take their chances. The other extreme thinks we should not allow anyone out, kids, no one, until a vaccine is out. So it that means kids are locked down for years, they do not care.

    Both sides are selfish….the first says do not dare ask me do do one thing differently to protect others. The 2nd is saying the heck with your lives, jobs, kids, do not dare go outside because I am vulnerable.

    The answer in the US will be much closer to appeasing the first group than the 2nd.

  • catherine · May 3, 2020 at 10:08 am

    Although deaths are falling in the UK it seems unlikely that mass gatherings will be permitted until 2021, so no ATP finals unless behind closed doors.

  • Vijay · May 3, 2020 at 12:11 pm

    Scoop, it’s always entertaining to read your rants about who is to blame (deep state, inside job, NWO, etc). But I think you want to be careful about blaming the Rothschilds — that line of attack has a long and sordid history, and one you want to avoid.

    As for pitting country against country, that was actually British foreign policy for the longest time. Northern Ireland vs Ireland, India vs Pakistan, Israel vs Jordan + Palestine, Iran vs Iraq, Saudi vs someone, etc. The British drew maps that created conflict and then volunteered to help clean up the conflict.

    Catherine, that’s not my insight, actually, but one described by Sir Humphrey in Yes Minister (that’s a TV show) almost 40 years ago.

    Incidentally, Sir Humphrey also said that it was British govt policy to save the Universities. Both of them. I wonder how far it holds true today.

  • catherine · May 3, 2020 at 12:26 pm

    Trudeau the son of Fidel Castro ?

    Please Scoop, get some help.

    Jon – no one’s going to lock kids down for years,not in any country, I can promise you. I haven’t seen that scenario even remotely suggested. No kids would put up with it anyway.

  • Jon King · May 3, 2020 at 2:59 pm

    Scoop, nothing new in any of the stuff you repeat. Same message Hitler used, KKK used, every cult from Waco to Jonestown, and every other despot in history. Wash, rinse, repeat.

    Other side super evil, molests babies, only we know the truth, its all a deep conspiracy, and on and on. Any student of history has heard all this nonsense many, many times before. At least you guys should try to be somewhat original?

  • catherine · May 3, 2020 at 4:06 pm

    Vijay – you won’t be able to read this for a while – actually all European countries did the same sort of thing for hundreds of years, Sir Humphrey was absolutely right. I watched Yes, Minister and its sequel in the 70s, the great decade of Brit TV comedy, don’t make them like that anymore. The Universities crack is still truer than it should be. Johnson, Cameron, Blair, Thatcher, Heath – all Oxbridge.

    Rothschilds – Jewish conspiracy is part of the cult Scoop believes in. I don’t find it entertaining at all.
    (I’ve just read a book called ‘A lot of people are saying’, it’s worth looking at.)

    T-P is imploding. I wish the technical problem could be sorted out and Scoop could restrict his comments to like-minded friends but I’m not hopeful.

  • Andrew Miller · May 3, 2020 at 4:30 pm

    Catherine, I gave up. Scoop, so that you know, I give up. You say a lot of things and I am afraid that, if I were being tribal, I’d say you are firing on your own, friendly fire. You took the risk to politicize your own website, and look at the quality of the tennis commentary: it could be a ten of ten, and it has fallen to a sliding scale where it goes from 10/10 down to 1/10, up to a 3/10, back to a 9/10 (…). The rants and ravings chased away some fantastic commenters. You and Dan and Richard did an amazing job to bring together so many people that love the sport, only to drive them away.

    After vowing not to do that again, your words betrayed you – you had admitted the politics stuff got out of hand and that you’d stop. Then backed out of your own commitment with yourself and others.

    Shame doesn’t work so well, I hope that the site gets better, but I don’t think it will until its leadership, which means you and some others, decide what kind of site you want. If you are going to make it TP, aka Tennis Politics, then I suggest deep-sixing the site and rebranding it. If that’s now your interest, why not just do that.

    If you want it to be a solid place for tennis coverage, then I also think it needs to be re-started – maybe even close the comments box/turn off comments for a few months. Figure out what the pure tennis re-brand looks like, and then re-open comments after taking stock.

    What’s obvious is this back and forth can’t go on. Lincoln once said a house divided can’t stand, and this house here at Tennis-Prose is divided into a thousand pieces.

    I think it was Proust that once said inevitably people end up destroying what they love. Well, that holds true here. I still wish you the best.

  • Jon King · May 3, 2020 at 4:37 pm

    catherine, there are opinion piece writers that have said kids should not return to school or activities unless a vaccine is found. A vaccine could be years away.

    No school, no summer camps, no organized sports, no dances without a vaccine. Playgrounds are all closed still because the county officials say kids can not be trusted to wash their hands and might spread the virus.

    Not sure about your childhood but take all those things away from American kids and that is pretty much being locked down. Not much left for kids to do.

  • Vijay · May 3, 2020 at 4:38 pm

    Catherine, you left out Gordon Brown, that reprobate from U of Edinburgh. For good reason, clearly. Incidentally, I briefly met BoJo when he was campaigning to be a Chancellor of U of Edinburgh about 15 years ago. Charming fellow. Very smooth. Wouldn’t trust him with anything.

    Scoop, please know nobody comes here to hear your rants about Jews and whatnot. Inside job and NWO is in one thing. Anti Semitism is something else completely. I second Catherine. Please get the technical issues fixed and let’s keep this about tennis. You have lots of interesting things to say there.

  • Jon King · May 3, 2020 at 8:58 pm

    Just read your history Scoop to see where your being led by the extreme conspiracy sites. It is exactly the same playbook Hitler used. Hitler had plenty of others on his hate list besides the Jewish people. Hitler went after gays, immigrants, social Democrats, intellectual elite including scientists and university professors, artistic people, liberals.

    Hitler progressed from these ‘others’ were just bad, to these ‘others’ stole money, to these ‘others’ did the most horrible acts such as molesting children. No better way to demonize a group of people than to say they support, condone, participate in crimes against kids.

    Its scary how the same groups targeted by Hitler and the same progression to them being the worst kind of people that the masses would hate, pedophiles, is literally identical to how today’s conspiracy guys target and talk.

    Notice the Clintons are pedophiles, Bill Maher pedophile, Gates pedophile….the same exact things Hitler said about his enemies. Now they can doctor You Tube videos and photos, Hitler could only force people to testify against others. Had Hitler had access to photoshop or You Tube, he would have used that just like today’s guys do.

    If saying someone they disagree with is bad does not work, say they are stealing money, if that does not work, go in for the kill with ‘they are pedophiles’. It Hitlerism 101, decades later.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 3, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    Jon, it all connects to epstein island. Look at the flight logs. nobody went there to play tennis. Elite pe dofiles went there and got filmed and then blackmailed. you can’t erase epstein island pal. epstein and his controllers all deserve death. as does ghislaine maxwell. hitler has nothing to do with epstein island.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 3, 2020 at 9:19 pm

    Jon why are you excusing and erasing epstein pedofile island as if it never happened?

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 3, 2020 at 9:27 pm

    Andrew, the world is in chaos now, its tragic how many people are having their lives ruined by this corona BS to attack Trump. Now these maniacs are trying to vaccine everyone and chip everyone. Who the hell can trust what these blackmailed pedofile elites like gates is putting in the vaccine? When did gates become doctor of the world? would these evil greedy monsters put a disease on the vaccine to make people sick so they can profit from the cure? I really believe they would do that and can’t be trusted. Greed is out of control. This stuff is far more important. I wish the world would be in harmony and peace, but there are too many evil greedy monsters who never have enough $ and power. I wish life was simple and tennis could be pure and uplift the world. But evil is out of control now. Thank God Trump got rid of epstein and weinstein, if clinton won they would still be doing their sick evil.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 3, 2020 at 9:28 pm

    Vijay, where is my rant against jews? If you lie you will be deleted.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 3, 2020 at 9:38 pm

    Jon I am against all kind of supremacists – white, black, jewish, asian, whatever. If one tennis player gets kicked out of tennis tournaments over a hundred times by the tournament director, is it the tournament director’s fault or is it maybe the player’s patterns of bad behavior?

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 3, 2020 at 10:18 pm

    THOSE WHO ARE ABLE TO SEE BEYOND THE SHADOWS AND LIES OF THE CULTURE WILL NEVER BE UNDERSTOOD, LET ALONE BELIEVED BY THE MASSES. – PLAUTUS

    THE ILLUSION WHICH EXALTS US IS DEARER TO US THAN 10,000 TRUTHS. – PUSHKIN

    WE ALL KNOW THAT ART IS NOT TRUTH. ART IS A LIE THAT MKAES US REALIZE THE TRUTH. – PICASSO

    THE TRUTH HAS TO BE LEARNED. IT’S NEVER TOLD.

  • Jon King · May 4, 2020 at 12:40 am

    Trump and Epstein were almost like brothers for 30 years. If anyone is a pervert it is Trump who has been involved with underage girls according to a lawsuit, and may even be having a long time sexual relationship with his own daughter.

    Some are demanding Ivanka’s kids submit to a DNA test as many think Trump may be their father. Many are saying Kushner is a transvestite female and is not the father, simply a fake husband to hide the truth from the American people. You have to admit that Kushner looks and speaks very much like a female posing as a male.

    I say lets see the results of the DNA tests of all of Trump’s grandchildren. Something seems quite fishy about that situation judging from Trump’s comments on Howard Stern about being physically attracted to his daughter. If there is nothing to hide then why will Ivanka not agree to the DNA tests and to have Kushner examined by an independent doctor? What are they hiding??

  • catherine · May 4, 2020 at 12:54 am

    Get help Scoop, before you become a danger to yourself and others. You won’t of course.

  • catherine · May 4, 2020 at 3:19 am

    Vijay – I left out Gordon Brown because he’s Scottish. But I did quick research and out of 14 post-WW2 British PMs only 4 did not go to Oxbridge.

    Yes, BoJo can be very charming, as I’m sure all the ladies he’s left in his wake could confirm. You probably never saw the show Spitting Image – Boris would have made a great puppet.

    More seriously – whatever Scoop says, anti-semitism is a key part of all current conspiracy theories. Jewish names, Rothschild etc are just codes for that. Jews are not permitted in groups like QAnon and other such unpleasant gatherings on the far right.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 4, 2020 at 9:15 am

    Jon that is media fraud. Trump hung out with Epstein once or twice but the media showed that one video a million times and brainwashed you to believe Trump built Epstein’s pedofile rape island. You are desperate to smear Trump with Epstein’s evil.

  • Jon King · May 4, 2020 at 9:16 am

    catherine, I also wish to go back to only posting about tennis. My latest post to Scoop was to show one thing, anyone can make up stuff and say “lots of people say” or “I have heard”.

    Its a playbook that been around since recorded time. Salem witch trials, cults, Hitler, and now these Q-anon guys. Its always the same.

    Also, as a white male I must ask the question, why is it almost always white guys with this stuff? Serial killers, mass shootings, which burning, Q-anon, KKK, holocaust, Trumpers.

    Geez, us white guys need to chill out and coexist.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 4, 2020 at 9:19 am

    Catherine I am for death penalty to all pedfiles who raped kids on epstein island and everyone who is involved in child trafficking rings. I’m sorry but your prince andrew needs to be executed asap.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 4, 2020 at 9:20 am

    Rothchild is jewish? I didn’t know that.

  • catherine · May 4, 2020 at 12:02 pm

    86 comments ?

  • catherine · May 4, 2020 at 12:23 pm

    Jon – yes, I don’t really know why it’s white guys. Maybe something to do with feeling marginalised, threatened by women, cavemen protecting their territory, I don’t know. Most fascist/neo Nazi groups don’t attract women in great numbers, historically or now.

    Vijay – no, my alma mater was in Australia, long time ago. I’m sorry to say we were a lazy cossetted generation. Not Oxbridge material. I’ll maybe look you up online sometime – as Vera Lynn sang (at the end of Dr Strangelove and in the Queen’s recent chat) ‘we’ll meet again’.

    Apart from anything else, this site has become impossible for me, with comments not showing up, it’s not worth it. There’s a hitch somewhere and Scoop’s not fixing it. Not my end, all other sites work ok.

    I’ll miss T-P as it was, but enough’s enough.

    This won’t appear unless someone else posts. C***.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 4, 2020 at 12:52 pm

    Womens pro tennis in tampa on espn3. Lepchenko, Di Lorenzo, Zarazua, Parks, Sysoeva in action. https://www.espn.com/watch/player/_/id/4ff80336-9ba1-4fcb-a013-bfc4850ad278/bucketId/8894

  • Jon King · May 4, 2020 at 4:32 pm

    Scoop, thanks for proving my point. When stuff is said about Trump, its all nonsense and requires 100 pieces of evidence for you to believe. But if you hear or see anything bad about someone you guys do not like, it 100% true.

    Trump did make sexual comments about his daughter on tape, Trump did meet Epstein multiple times, Trump did get sued by an underage girl, Trump did say he liked to grab women against their will on tape, Trump was known for hanging with underage girls in his 30s-40s. Kushner does look like a transvestite. So its not far fetched that any of what I said was true. But you need tons of proof of it….but you do not much proof that Bill Maher is a pedophile.

    catherine, its white guys, I know, I grew up a white guy and know a tons of them! We had lots of advantages, white guys hire other white guys. White guys recommend their friends white sons for jobs and colleges.

    So white guys who make it and find happy lives are very cool to be around. But the white guys that do not succeed how they thought they should, my cousin, brother in law, etc. lash out. Its someone’s fault, affirmative action, immigrants, women, liberals. For some reason they are not happy in life and its someone’s fault.

    You will notice not a lot of mass shooters are successful business owners. Not a lot of Trump rally attendees are doctors or top pro athletes. Its always the loser white guys who need to join these groups. Life scares them, responsibility for their failings scares them.

    The funniest thing I ever saw was a loud mouth Trump guy in Boynton Beach, FL. Had his gun collection, talked all the time about how tough he was. He was 6 foot, 200 lbs, worked out. A true bully. One day the MMA class was working in the ring and a little guy challenged him. he got his butt kicked by a 5’6″ 130 lb MMA fighter.

    Most of these guys are cowards when it comes down to it. Thats why they need their guns and to act tough when they are truly some of most scared guys on earth.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 4, 2020 at 7:36 pm

    There is an agenda to minoritize whites in white nations. It’s no coincidence that white nations like Italy, Sweden, England, France, Germany, USA, etc, are being intentionally flooded with non whites. But if the media tells you white genocide is a conspiracy theory, go ahead and be a media brainwashed zombie and keep believing it. In America now, liberals get outraged and attack whites just for saying “It’s OK to be white.” Whites can not even say It’s okay to be white. Insane and it proves the agenda is at work. But it ain’t gonna succeed. Jon that’s too bad that poor guy got knocked out by the MMA guy. I’ve never been beaten in a fight in my life. I’ve had black eyes and bloody noses but nobody ever kicked my ass. Sense is you’d like to try to be the first. Good luck! Too say most Trump supporters are failed or disenfranchised white guys is pure nonsense what the media wants you to believe. Most Trump supporters are successful and see the agenda to minoritize us and remove us. And for standing up our rights we are smeared as racist white supremacists. We’ll see how it ends up. And if the invisible enemy really wants to genocide whites.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 4, 2020 at 8:10 pm

    Looks like deep state democrats colluded with China to create this pandemic. Pure evil…epstein had an office at Harvard. Everything ties to epstein…

    EXCLUSIVE: FED Insiders Blow Roof Off Massive Harvard-China Medical Scandal; Obama Justice Dept. Killed & Covered Up FBI Probe of Harvard’s Lieber — The Top Chemist Recently Indicted as Chinese Agent https://t.co/LAKF4NMiqy

  • Andrew Miller · May 4, 2020 at 10:05 pm

    Scoop, as I said, this site is ruined. We are mourning over the ashes of what once was a very fine place to talk about tennis. Your books stand on their own, but the site no longer does. I say all of that with a heavy heart. It went from talking about wicked drop shots and out of this world spin shots, to lowest common denominator political madness.

    There’s no way to match up the delightful columns about hitting with Cherkasov’s daughter to the rants that have now polluted the comment section. We used to talk about Ryan Harrison and how Mayotte thought he needed a rework on some shots (and how right Mayotte was, Harrison would have been wise to work with Mayotte or Lansdorp when he had the chance as a teenager, before so much time passed). Or Doogie with his smart commentary on Vesely. Not that long ago Catherine’s thoughts on Kerber and where he game had gone as her fame had grown.

    Those were good times.

    All of that is gone, and I’m sorry that it went up in a ball of smoke. You’re still of course capable of some excellent tennis work and some fine columns. But the commentary area is destroyed. I loved it when it was about matches. Now that it’s about something else, it’s impossible to enjoy.

    Some people when faced with a fork in the road get their site in order. Personally I believe TP should close comments and archive the posts, and start fresh. Or rebrand as the best of TP and feature past posts but closed comments. If there’s no place to comment or vent, then there’s no problem – you can love and write about tennis, and avoid what has destroyed the site.

    I think all the other things said and I am sorry to say this, all of that’s a bunch of excuses. Tennis will be back in the future, and the site should prepare for that instead of things that have nothing to do with tennis.

    I am very sorry so many tennis sites have no become better forums than TP. I even remember writing about TP so that Scoop and Dan would get back into the US Open. That’s not something I could do now given I think the level of the site has gone down quite a lot since the comments section went berserk. And there’s no other way to describe it really, the comments section changed so dramatically. Whether you made that decision or not, the reality is it’s so much worse than it had ever been. It used to be almost inspirational and now it is just plain bad.

    You’re of course at the wheel here in terms of what you want to do. But I don’t think the site can continue like this.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 4, 2020 at 10:24 pm

    Andrew I never met you but I feel I know you like family. We have conversed so much over the years more than some in my family. I’m sorry to cause you this grief. But there is a harsh storm in our country now thunder lightning hail snow and raining cats and dogs. Our futures and the future of this sport are at stake. An invisible enemy is trying to destroy everything. I want normalcy back as much as you and being friendly with all the tennis prose family again. We all want this lunacy to end. Hopefully soon it will be over and I promise the site will be better than ever. I miss everyone even Harold less militant jon, and Dan and Hartt and jg and michaeluk but we are in a bad storm. Very bad storm. But all storms pass. Moutet biofile coming soon. Andrew you are a great human being. I know it. Fabulous heart. Sorry to cause you any grief.

  • Sam · May 5, 2020 at 12:50 am

    “Who is playing in Germany?”

    Scoop, this thread discusses the event. Maybe you’ve already seen it:

    https://www.menstennisforums.com/threads/covid-era-tennis-begins-western-europes-first-professional-sports-event-in-37-days-is-held-today.988819/#post-41489071

  • Sam · May 5, 2020 at 1:04 am

    “Sam, I am actually with you 100% on your last comment regarding the vulnerable.”

    Well, Jon, I guess we have more common ground on this issue that we thought. 😉 I basically agreed with your most recent comment too.

    “In the vast majority of cases the virus only makes seriously ill the elderly or when the people are younger, they already have serious underlying health conditions.”

    That seems to be the case.

    “Thats a tragedy but the fact is in rare cases either this virus or something else will shockingly kill a very few young and healthy.”

    Yeah, that’s not something we can do much about, unfortunately. 🙁

    “A family of 2 young kids with no elderly around is different than a family that lives in a large house with both sets of grandparents. Not all of us should be forced into the same set of rules.”

    Yes, those two cases are very different.

    “Basically her attitude is if we can decrease our risks .000000001%, the heck with you and your kids quality of life.”

    Not a very admirable attitude from her.

    “We have been able to threaten her with legal action and get some of the rules rescinded. She is under investigation by the county attorney from altering official documents”

    Good for you-all for pursuing this. 🙂

    “People that wanted to ignore the virus from the beginning made things much worse, and people who now want to restrict everyone else from all activities to protect themselves are also wrong.”

    Pretty much.

    “We actually have people in America who smoked, drank, never exercised, are obese, have self induced diabetes and other health issues….and they expect families with little kids to not go outside until a vaccine is developed…1 year, 2 years….they just do not care. So they spent a lifetime abusing their health and now little kids should sacrifice everything to protect them? BS.”

    Yeah, those kinds of expectations are ludicrous.

    “Lets make sure front line workers have protective equipment, increase the availability of testing, and do what we can to protect the vulnerable.”

    Sounds smart.

    “But at some point people will need to be allowed to take calculated risks and resume activities. And an 85 year old will have to take different precautions to attend a sporting even than a healthy 20 year old would. Common sense.”

    Exactly.

  • Sam · May 5, 2020 at 1:15 am

    “Firefox doesn’t like T-P but another browser does.”

    Catherine, I use Firefox (and a fairly old version at that) on a Mac, but I haven’t been having any significant problems with this site. So who knows what’s really going on? 😉

    It can be so frustrating, though, when you post to a Web site and your comments don’t show up. I always hate that. 🙁

  • catherine · May 5, 2020 at 1:43 am

    #

  • Sam · May 5, 2020 at 1:44 am

    “Maher is a Satanist pedofile”

    Scoop, I’m not a big fan of Maher either, but sometimes he can be pretty perceptive. In fact, he nailed it with his “panic porn” description of the mainstream media’s behavior. And he’s right-on in the video that Jon posted concerning the importance of our immune system.

    “The 2nd is saying the heck with your lives, jobs, kids, do not dare go outside because I am vulnerable.”

    And Jon, those people aren’t acknowledging that a societal shutdown can cause many *other* kinds of illnesses, including mental illnesses. According to WebMD, domestic violence and alcohol consumption have gone way up since the lockdowns began. I’ve already heard of some suicides connected to the lockdowns as well. And apparently suicide rates reached an all-time high in the U.S. during the Great Depression, so having a functional economy is very important.

  • catherine · May 5, 2020 at 3:48 am

    Sam –

    I use Firefox, the latest version on a PC, Windows 10, but I’ve only just started having this problem with T-P. I’ve been told it’s probably the site rather than me because everything works ok on other sites and I’ve been on T-P for several years. Although I don’t like the political stuff here I didn’t (don’t) want to leave the site permanently but it’s a pain having to wait for someone else to post before my comment, or other comments, appear and I haven’t got eternal patience. (Other browsers are the same.) That # was posted because I could see other comments were here but I couldn’t read them until I entered that.

    If anyone tech savvy sees this and has any idea what’s going on and if there’s a solution I’d appreciate it.

  • catherine · May 5, 2020 at 4:12 am

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