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Did Nadal Shatter Zverev?

Young Alexander Zverev had already had three cracks at Rafael Nadal and the first one last year at Indian Wells he had a match point but botched it with a netted forehand volley. We all thought Zverev would fix the issues and take down the supposedly fading Nadal in their next encounter. Not so fast kid. In Australia this year Nadal survived an incredible fight by Zverev and prevailed in five brutal sets. Another heartbreak for young Zverev. We all wondered again: If Zverev had just converted that darn volley in Indian Wells he probably would have had the belief and bravado to have won against Rafa in Australia.
azIt would only get worse for young Zverev. Nadal absolutely annihilated Alexander last week on clay in Monte Carlo 61 61. It was such a disastrous result that Zverev changed his schedule and plans and wildcarded his way this week in Barcelona. Zverev even publicly expressed the reasoning for this decision: I WANT REVENGE ON NADAL. Zverev was on his way to avenging Nadal but one match before the fourth showdown with Rafa Zverev got clobbered by Hyeon Chung 61 64. It was a devastating loss for Zverev who shattered his Head racquet after the dreadful double fault on the final point. Clearly the three losses by Zverev to Nadal have taken a serious toll on the 20 year old’s psyche, and such losses can alter a young player’s career. The not so pretty truth is that great players like Nadal and Federer and Djokovic and Andy and Wawrinka are career destroyers. Their incredible success is at the expense of the rest of the ATP players including the types like Zverev and Raonic and Nishikori and Grigor. While Zverev is still very young and eager it’s possible that these three heartbreaking losses to Nadal have inflicted irreparable damage. It is possible that the once strong belief of Zverev won’t fully recover, like Pancho Segura said Vince Spadea’s loss to Chang at US Open after serving for the match basically wrecked his career. I’ll tell you something: The next several weeks are suddenly a very important stage in Zverev’s career. He has absolutely got to do anything and everything possible to erase the heartbreak of these losses to Nadal and the only way to do it is
quite obvious. Zverev has to get his hands on Nadal on a tennis court very very soon and overcome his Rafa demons – before it’s too late.

95 comments

  • scoopmalinowski · May 3, 2017 at 10:06 am

    If the #nextgen gets uppity and shows too much fire to beat Roger then Fed Army gets offended if anyone shows the master too much ambition. Djokovic still suffers from this from Feds Army. Most players actually seem afraid to beat Roger and Rafa. Soderling took a beating for beating Rafa. Physically its almost impossible to beat Roger and the elites. Mentally its even harder because its borderline illegal from a Tour business standpoint. The elites live sitting on the mountaintop and want to stay there as long as possible. #nextgen tag doesnt win any favors. Kyrgios is the leading force who can evacuate the atp mountaintop. Lets see if miami controversy vs Fed helps or hurt his rise.

  • Andrew Miller · May 3, 2017 at 1:32 pm

    Scoop, speaking about the crab pot here, where expectations remain either way too high or way too low and there’s no Lloyd Carroll or Tim Mayotte on staff to light a clearly needed fire to motivate any next Gen player including USA next Gen men and the guys above them, are USA men’s players on the verge of even a Dabid Wheaton or Mal Washington career? Aren’t they all one or another version of the Maleeva sisters, with varied games and decent but not HOF results?

    I mean, not to make you brag, but Scoop and Dan have authored many books on tennis pros, fantastic ones and ones that wanted more out there. So you guys are capable of being able to recognize whether players are low balling it or putting themselves in pole position to smash through the glass ceiling of this sport.

    But seriously, aren’t guys like Sock low balling it? Shouldn’t they, like Zverev, want to push themselves past their low expectations?

    I don’t want to diminish what they’ve accomplished – the USA men have rescued the USA from the tennis death star. They were on life support in February 2014 when only Isner and Brad Klahn were the USA’s only two top 70 players.

    But why are they still living under the delusion that avoiding the Euro clay season is a great idea? That the us summer hard court swing will save their rankings?

    Where’s the impatience and the urgency that motivated Nadal and Djokovic and Murray? It’s almost entirely absent from us men.

  • Andrew Miller · May 3, 2017 at 1:37 pm

    And Scoop I’d agree with you there that no matter how old the youngest guys are in the top twenty etc, they fail to get it that in this sport it’s ALWAYS put up or shut up time. Stan Wawrinka was no slouch as a teenager and eventually he made a decision to join the best at age 29, right? Something like that.

    Point is time isn’t on their side. The big four, five etc ha e never yielded the throne to Berdych and Tsonga, and if they can help it they’ll ride this train as long as possible. They don’t care if Pouille beats them in 2016 so long as they can return the favor many times the next year and make that match a distant memory.

    Tennis is a gladiator sport. We see few players recognize this reality.

  • Andrew Miller · May 3, 2017 at 1:43 pm

    These guys should study Konta. I don’t love her game, but she has shown the ability to take it to the sport’s best players. And she seems to be one of the few players with the courage to go for a slam like Kerber did last year and Pennetta before her and Puig at Olympics. Part of this is opportunity, but most of it is mindset.

  • Hartt · May 3, 2017 at 4:27 pm

    Catherine, just saw your question about Canuck Dabrowski. Gabriela Dabrowski is 25 and a doubles specialist, although she does play some singles. She is currently ranked around No. 20 in doubles, and she and Genie played doubles at the Olympics. Gabriela is one of those players who keeps slogging away under the radar, managing to make a living playing tennis. I wish she had a regular doubles partner, I think she was meant to have one this season, but that player was injured.

    Because it is Schiavone’s last season I was happy to see her get this win, even at Gabi’s expense. I think Gabriela had to get through qualies, so she did get a few wins at the tourney.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 3, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    Dabrowski was a top junior in singles and she reached a final of a big junior event – underachieved so far in pro singles –

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 3, 2017 at 8:12 pm

    Thanks for the kind words Andrew. I think Sock is going all out for it but when he runs into the top elites he doesn’t quite know how to get the job done. What works against everyone else outside the top ten does not work vs the top ten and especially the top five although Sock did best Nishikori this year in Indian Wells. That was a great win. But beating Fed and Rafa and Andy and Djokovic and Tsonga are taller orders. I think he can beat them but he has to be more obsessed and more intense. Versus Rafa he needs to be like Rafa, super INTENSE from not the first ball in play BUT THE WARMUP. Sock comes out casual and against Rafa that isn’t gonna cut it. Sock likes to be casual and relaxed – that seems to be how he deals with the pressure, how he vents. Against Rafa, he has to approach every single point like it’s championship point. That’s how Rafa does it. I really think that is all Sock needs, just a little tweek on his mental. The physical goods are certainly there to harass and defeat Rafa. Sock cannot play Rafa with the same mindset he plays Pospisil or Young or Johnson. He has to change that aspect.

  • Andrew Miller · May 3, 2017 at 8:26 pm

    Scoop that sounds right about game plan against the top guys versus the rest. Nadal in 2006 French Open I think watched videos of himself beating Federer in the 2005 French Open semifinal to remember the energy level he brought into that match, which was stepped up a few notches from the previous match. That means even Nadal had to convince himself to play bigger than ever against a player he was already beating because of the stakes.
    Just proves your point.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 3, 2017 at 9:28 pm

    Andrew; though I did not see it, I was told what happened in the first match Rafa ever played vs Federer in Miami when he was 17. Colleague told me Rafa was literally flying around the court, flying, jumping, fist pumps, the most intense he ever was. And he needed it. AND OF COURSE it uplifted his performance and he beat Roger 63 63! Which set the tone for the rivalry to be one sided. There’s no way Roger played with the same level of intensity that Rafa did. It’s a special talent to be able to manufacture and create that kind of intensity which is a huge energy source. Sock does it sometimes. Most players don’t have it. Hewitt had it. Hewitt STILL HAS IT. Serena has it. Especially when she needs it or she is threatened. Sock has to embrace it. I think players like Sock need to practice yelling their COME AWNS. Practice roaring like a lion. Show everyone you’re a lion. And you will be a lion. Raonic needs this. Acting like your Todd Martin or Vince Spadea on court is not going to win you any majors. You gotta want it and let everyone know it. Roar like a lion. Roar like Hewitt, Rafa and Serena. If I were Sock I would yell COME AWN for ten minutes after every practice 🙂 Seriously it could help. Price you gotta pay to win majors.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 3, 2017 at 9:29 pm

    It’s about having the desire. Mike Tyson talked about it last week. He said when you get older in boxing you lose that desire. Certain players don’t lose their desire. Like I think Federer and Rafa and Serena are as hungry as they ever were.

  • catherine bell · May 4, 2017 at 1:55 am

    Hartt – thanks for the info. I must admit that I happy to see Francesca win. I’d like her to make the most of her last year on the circuit. That generation of Italian women was exceptional.

  • catherine bell · May 4, 2017 at 3:08 am

    The decision of the AEC not to invite Nastase to sit in the Royal Box at Wimbledon is the silliest thing I’ve ever heard, just about. When you think of some of the people who’ve sat there. Probably Jimmy Savile for one.

    I suppose the club is planning to invite Serena, if she can still travel by then.

    Wimbledon’s a great tournament but I sometimes wish the AEC would just dissolve itself. It’s a relic.

  • Hartt · May 4, 2017 at 7:13 am

    Catherine, you’re welcome. I should have mentioned that Dabrowski recently had the biggest title of her career. She, along with partner Xu Yifan, won Miami last month, her first Premier Mandatory title.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 4, 2017 at 8:37 am

    If Schiavone does not get to play in Rome main draw it would be an outrage.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 4, 2017 at 8:39 am

    Catherine: I agree if they ban Nastase it’s an outrage – Let a pedo-satanist like Saville in but not Nastase because he said a few bad words – Shows you which cabal runs things –

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 4, 2017 at 8:39 am

    What has Dabrowski done since winning miami? I would guess it sparked her career and confidence?

  • Hartt · May 4, 2017 at 2:44 pm

    Scoop, don’t know a lot about Dabrowski since Miami. She was busy with Fed Cup for part of April. She only played the dead rubber doubles, thanks to the heroics of youngsters Abanda and Andreescu. She and her partner, 18-year-old Catherine Sebov, lost that match. Gaby, at 25, was the old lady on the team.

    She and partner Alison Riske got to the QF in Morocco this week. In singles at that tourney she got through 3 rounds of qualies and won her 1R match before losing to Schiavone. So it looks like no big changes, but as I mentioned before, Gaby is hampered by not having a regular doubles partner now.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 4, 2017 at 7:56 pm

    Hartt; Well Dabrowski will surely hook up with a top partner soon as she is showing she is a doubles force – Her and Hingis could be good together once Hingis and Chan start to lose –

  • catherine bell · May 5, 2017 at 3:42 am

    Hartt –
    Talking about players and books – there’s a piece on Tennis Now about Kerber which quotes some stuff she wrote before Stuttgart – reads a bit strangely now in view of her results but interesting – Angie says she reads thrillers a lot, can understand that, they’re light relief from the angst of playing.
    She also likes pop music and going to the lighter type of movies and reading about herself on social media.
    It’s quite a revealing piece if you read between the lines. She mentions her mother and sister as family support but not her father. And take a look at her face during her press interview. Tells a lot.

    I’ve known writers in the past who’ve been terribly disappointed to discover that sports people, tennis players included,turn out not to be frustrated intellectuals curling up with Tostoy etc and going to art house movies and revelling in high flown conversations. We long to to find in others the qualities we want them to have.
    I’ve only ever known one player who was remotely intellectual and that was years ago and she didn’t stay around very long.

  • Hartt · May 5, 2017 at 7:32 am

    Thanks for the tip about the Angie piece. Will definitely have a look. It is interesting that she likes to read about herself on social media. And am with her about thrillers – I almost always have 1 on the go, and they are a terrific diversion from real life.

    I would be surprised if a tennis player was an actual intellectual. Milos is very smart in an academic way. He finished high school at 16 with excellent marks. His parents, both engineers, made good grades a condition of his playing as much tennis as he wanted to. And they were very disappointed when he changed his mind about taking a university scholarship to turn pro. Even then they insisted he take some university courses and put a condition on how long they would continue their financial support. If he did not make the top 100 within a certain period he was to go to university full time. He does read serious books and seems like someone who thinks about things, but is not an intellectual.

    What surprises me is the players who don’t read at all, not even thrillers. But especially books on tennis players. If I were a tennis player I would definitely want to read Scoop’s “Facing” books and Agassi’s “Open.”

  • sharoten · May 5, 2017 at 9:10 am

    Djokovic has fired his whole team – coaches, physios, trainers, everyone. The only one left is Pepi the guru who, it would appear, has completely taken over his life.

  • catherine bell · May 5, 2017 at 10:15 am

    Hartt
    I read a lot of thrillers too, as you probably gathered from an earlier conversation – just finished the latest Peter Robinson but it isn’t nearly as good as his earlier ones. He’s writing to a bit of a formula now.

    I’m not really surprised that players don’t read books about tennis – they probably get enough on the court. I shouldn’t think policeman read police procedurals either.

    Lots of players, more women than men I suspect, pore over their twitter accounts – the appeal of that passes me by but then I’m from a different generation. You risk developing a kind of double identity – the public one where everything is hunky dory and the real one you’d never tell anyone about.

    Angie is a pretty honest person I would think but in spite of everything she’s said in various places we don’t have much idea of how she really feels about the awful year she’s having.
    I hope Madrid can show an upturn in her fortunes. The women’s game needs her.

  • Hartt · May 5, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    Catherine, I have sort of given up on Peter Robinson. As you say, he is writing to a formula now. That seems to be a problem for a lot of mystery writers. I sometimes stop reading an author’s works for a few years and then go back to them.

    The Reference Library here runs a program where they have writers from a wide variety of genres and they have had some terrific interviews/readings. A few years ago Peter Robinson took part. Probably my favourite interview with a mystery writer was Henning Mankell. He was so incredibly charming – it was sad news when he died.

    A couple weeks ago they had Sara Paretsky and Jacqueline Winspear. That was fun and it led me to borrow a Sara Paretsky – have not read a book by her for several years. Winspear is from England but lives in the US. She talked about getting the idea for her first Maisie Dobbs book when stuck in a traffic jam in LA. She was still thinking about her idea long after traffic had started to move and she was blocking traffic, much to the annoyance of those drivers behind her.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 5, 2017 at 1:26 pm

    Thanks for the plug Hartt! There are a lot of very intelligent players I’ve encountered doing interviews and Biofiles – Ljubicic Wilander Lendl Johnny mcenroe Vera Zvonareva Federer Nadal Ryan Harrison etc –

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 5, 2017 at 1:28 pm

    Just another sign of severe turbulence in the Djokovic universe – I have never heard of a top player doing a total house cleaning regarding his entourage like this by Djokovic – Not a very good sign – Perhaps he should just go it solo for a while which worked out okay for Federer – I would guess that Djokovic doing this right now could indicate he already has his plan up his sleeve – A player does not clean house like this and then try to put the puzzle pieces together AFTER the firings –

  • catherine bell · May 5, 2017 at 1:46 pm

    Hartt –
    There are a couple of other writers I’ve read who are American but write about Britain – Elizabeth George and Martha Grimes. Elizabeth George writes awfully long books of varying quality – her best I think is called A Traitor to Memory. Martha Grimes’ books aren’t published here any more so I haven’t read her latest.

    You’ve probably done Josephine Tey – Miss Pym Disposes has the best kick at the end of almost any crime novel I’ve read.
    Angie’s thrillers are all German – I didn’t recognise the one she mentioned. But maybe she reads translations as well.
    Writers in that genre I can read again and again – Conan Doyle and Agatha Christie.
    Christie’s plots are so easy to forget that it’s like reading a new book each time 🙂

    Tennis – Schiavone has reached the final it looks like but can’t see her winning. Still, a good run. Really deserves a WC for Rome.

  • Hartt · May 5, 2017 at 2:31 pm

    Catherine, I enjoy Elizabeth George’s books but, as you said, they are very long. I am at a point where I am not anxious to read a long book unless it is excellent. One of my book clubs is doing “How Green Was My Valley” for our next book. It is nearly 500 pages and has so much detail and such long descriptive passages. I had to skim through the last half or would have never finished it.

  • Hartt · May 5, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    I saw a couple close, tense matches this morning. Raonic won over Tomic, 7-6, 7-6. Tomic was in one of those moods where he played his best tennis and gave Milos a tough match. Milos’ serving saved the day – he had 25 aces and a first serve % of 69%. Milos extended his lead in their h2h to 5-0.

    Sascha Zverev survived a tough battle with Struff, 3-6, 7-6, 7-6. Struff played very well, was solid throughout the match and also made some terrific shots that had you wondering, how did he do that? But, as the commie said, Sascha showed mental toughness and grit and prevailed in the end.

  • Hartt · May 5, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    Does anyone know what is going on with the American ATP players? For Madrid, only Sock and Ryan Harrison are in the main draw, Harrison making it as an alternate. Isner, Querrey and Johnson are not playing the tourney, although it is a Master 1000. Are any of them injured, are they too allergic to clay, or is there another reason?

  • Hartt · May 5, 2017 at 4:19 pm

    Schiavone will play Pavlyuchenkova in the Rabat final. She is now No. 77 in the live ranking and if she wins tomorrow will jump several more spots. Her success in recent tournaments makes the decision by the Rome bigwigs to refuse her a wild card look dumber by the day.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 5, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    Americans tend to bypass much of the red clay stretch. Just a questionable pattern. Its a long year and maybe they feel the break helps for battery recharge and fitness training.

  • Chazz · May 5, 2017 at 5:17 pm

    Escobedo and Donaldson are in the qualifying at Madrid. No idea why Tiafoe isn’t. You can add Donald Young to the list of top 50 Americans that isn’t in Madrid either.

  • Hartt · May 6, 2017 at 12:02 pm

    In Madrid qualies today both Escobedo and Donaldson won their matches. Shelby Rogers, however, had to retire.

  • catherine bell · May 6, 2017 at 12:14 pm

    Schiavone lost final in Rabat but 5-7 5-7 so obviously put up a good fight. I hope someone puts on a goodbye show for her in Rome even if she’s not in the draw.

  • Hartt · May 6, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    So Schiavone remains at No. 77 in the live tennis rankings. Errani, who did get a wild card for Rome, is now at No. 90. I just don’t understand the thinking behind denying Schiavone a WC at a time when the Italian tennis officials should be recognizing her as a champion who contributed so much to Italian tennis.

    Anyway, completely agree, hope someone does organize a celebration of her career.

  • Hartt · May 6, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    This was a good day for some of my favourites, who will be in various finals tomorrow. Milos had an easy win over Troicki in SS, even though I don’t think he played his best today. He will face Cilic in the Istanbul final.

    Carreno Busta won over Ferrer and was clearly the better player. So, as Ferrer is approaching the end of his career, PCB is taking off. His opponent in the Estoril final will be Muller.

    And in Munich, Sascha Zverev won over Bautista-Agut. As you would expect, RBA did not make it easy for the youngster, but Sascha prevailed and will play Pella in the final.

    I think all my faves stand an excellent chance of winning the titles tomorrow. 🙂

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 6, 2017 at 8:15 pm

    Escobedo and Donaldson continue to rise – Like Tiafoe and Kozlov – Fritz Opelka Paul still struggling or are inactive though Paul won a thriller in Savannah against Krueger –

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 6, 2017 at 8:16 pm

    PCB stock value continues to rise – PCB looking like a lock for top ten –

  • Hartt · May 7, 2017 at 9:11 am

    I will be happy if PCB gets close to the top 10 this year. It is so gratifying when a player you have high hopes for starts to deliver.

    For the other 2 matches today, I will be very nervous for Milos. Cilic has played well this tourney. I have a butter tart planned if Milos wins. 🙂

    If Sascha’s match ever starts, I think he has to be the favourite. He is also on my treats-eligible list. So, for a Sascha title, maybe strudel? Surely at least one of those guys will come through!

  • catherine bell · May 7, 2017 at 9:41 am

    Hartt
    I’ve started posting on Madrid further up but as you’re here I thought I’d note the needle match Bouchard/Sharapova coming up – watch out for the handshake whatever the result 🙂

  • Hartt · May 7, 2017 at 1:08 pm

    The media types must be licking their chops in anticipation for that match. And to add even more to the story, Bouchard’s coach, Hogstedt, was Sharapova’s coach for about 3 years.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 7, 2017 at 3:58 pm

    Hartt; the more rapidly rising players you continue to support the more celebratory dessert obligations you will take on 🙂 Be careful or pick lower potential players like Estrella Troicki and Zeballos 🙂 You almost pulled off the hat trick today it’s uncanny how many of your players are doing so well perhaps you’re giving them luck 🙂

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 7, 2017 at 4:05 pm

    Bouchard vs Sharapova will be the WTA match of the year and everyone will be watching this one – Could even generate more ratings than Riggs vs King 🙂 Bouchard should hire Dimitrov as her co-coach for the day 🙂

  • Hartt · May 7, 2017 at 4:19 pm

    Scoop, I hope I am bringing those players luck! Have decided to limit the treats-eligible players to 10. So far I have 7 ATP players and 2 WTA, so the final spot will go to a female player. Will probably wait for Kvitova to be back – one of the rules is I have to feel an emotional tie to the players, have to care a lot whether they win. Kvitova fits the bill, although she is so inconsistent I probably don’t have to worry about too many calories on her account! But she makes a good balance to the 2 youngsters – Bianca Andreescu and Daria Kasatkina.

    Doubles news: Kyrgios/Sock won over the fine doubles team Rojer/Tecau. And it’s always great to see Tommy Haas get a win in his final year – he and Mirnyi won against Verdasco/Zimonjic in 3 sets.

  • Scoop Malinowski · May 7, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    NickSock could take over doubles – Sock could be the best doubles player in the world right now – Haas plays Gilles in first round though he is 1-2 career vs Gilles he could get lucky that Gilles is tired – Hartt that is unheard of having three favorite players winning a title in one day you nearly pulled it off 🙂

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