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Sock Smoked In Cincy

The ATP’s worst slumping singles player of the 2018 season continues his downward spiral into the abyss. Jack Sock got smoked once again today by Hyeon Chung 62 16 26.

Sock is now a brutal 5-15 on the season in singles – he hasn’t won a singles match since he beat David Ferrer 63 64 in Rome.

Still somehow ranked 20 in the world, Sock lost first round in Cincy last year to Sugita and also he lost first round at US Open to Jordan Thompson, 46 in the fifth. So Sock could gain a lot of desperately needed points if he can somehow summon a strong US Open run in two weeks.

Of course Sock has a ton of points to defend at Paris Indoors (defending champion) and semis at London World Tour Finals.

Sock, who turns 26 next month, has two weeks to figure out what’s wrong and to come up with a solution. Maybe a new coach – the Mark Knowles experiment has not produced even one singles win so far. Maybe a new racquet? Maybe a new fitness regimen?

Whatever it is, Sock needs to make some changes. Or he may soon be relegated to playing qualies and Challengers.

59 comments

  • Chazz · August 14, 2018 at 2:15 pm

    It was kind of a fluke he won that first set. It was unusual how off Chung was in that set.

  • Chazz · August 14, 2018 at 3:21 pm

    This Kudla-Kyrgios 3rd tiebreaker – are you kidding me. Kyrgios down match point and serves a crazy 133 mph second serve for an ace. There is no way someone who actually cares would do something like that. Unreal.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 14, 2018 at 3:38 pm

    Chazz, like I said, he’s the biggest waste of talent in tennis history. If only he had half the desire and drive as Ryan Harrison or Victor Estrella Burgos.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 14, 2018 at 3:39 pm

    Another player falling down the rankings is David Ferrer, he’s 9-17 on the year and now ranked 79 in the world. At 36 he’s near the end. Incredible that he’s lasted this long, Chang was finished around 31. Ferrer got smoked again in Cincy.

  • Hartt · August 14, 2018 at 4:31 pm

    Ferrer had said earlier that he would retire next year, maybe at Barcelona, although you have to wonder if this terrible slide down the rankings will get him to retire earlier than that.

    But he has had a wonderful career, has made the best use of his talent, and that is high praise for any player.

  • Hartt · August 14, 2018 at 5:26 pm

    I was very happy with a couple of the results today. Milos had a SS win over Lajovic, and Khachanov came back to win over Ramos-Vinolas. I don’t think Tsitsipas’ loss to Goffin was a big surprise; Stefanos has to be exhausted – physically, mentally and emotionally. And David certainly could use a win.

    Tonight 3 of my absolute favourite players will be on view. Felix is playing in a big Vancouver Challenger, and Fed, of course is playing in Cincy. So both the August 8 birthday boys will be in action.

    Then, of course is a very important match – Shapo vs Edmund. They have played several times already in their brief careers. In fact, Denis’ win over Kyle at Queen’s last year was what first put the youngster on the radar for many people.

  • Duke Carnoustie · August 14, 2018 at 5:48 pm

    Didn’t see it but heard the quality of the Sock match was beyond poor.

    Kyrgios just doesn’t care. He forgot his shoes en route to the court. Showed Kudla little respect slapping around the ball and missing by a mile often. I think Murray may also be a bad influence on him.

    As I predicted, Goffin ousts Tsitsipas. It was a must-win for the Belgian to avenge his D.C. loss.

    Thiem drops out of Cincy. This has a major effect on the Open since a win by Djoker over Mannarino gives him a top-8 seed in NY.

    Interesting comments by Svitolina on her weight loss. She told the media that she wanted to try something different. My opinion is it doesn’t work for her body but we shall see.

    She also gave a revealing Russian interview talking about the weight loss and other topics. She named the 5 cutest guys on tour as Grigor, Lopez, Verdasco and then Zverev and Tsitsipas from the NextGen. She said one admirer once gifted her a private jet. And she said that her mother never taught her about sex.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 14, 2018 at 6:41 pm

    Sounds like Svitolina is declaring her availability to the male population. She will have no trouble now attracting suitors. Goffin was far more motivated today and Tsitsipas needs a break. Thiem is looking like he will be the next Dimitrov.

  • Duke Carnoustie · August 14, 2018 at 6:56 pm

    Actually Scoop, Svitolina is still with the British cricket player Reece Topley so she is off the market. But she likes to do racy photo shoots and whatnot and enjoys the fact that men lust after her, as she mentioned in the interview.

    How bad was Coco Vandeweghe? I don’t fancy her making a run in the Open.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 14, 2018 at 7:10 pm

    Duke, cmon, Svitolina is clearly on the open market by the way she talks in this interview. She’s ready to dump this cricket player by the weekend.

  • Duke Carnoustie · August 14, 2018 at 11:40 pm

    You may be right Scoop. No evidence that Tapley is still with the Ukrainian.

    Also Scoop, so true that this Keith Ellison story is not being covered by the media. Not surprising.

  • Duke Carnoustie · August 15, 2018 at 1:20 am

    Kokkanakis follows up his Aptos win by knocking off Thompson in Vancouver in an All-Aussie affair. Kokk still has to qualify for Flushing Meadow after the AUS wild card went to Jason Kubler.

    Felix got pummeled by Bemelmans, meanwhile

  • Duke Carnoustie · August 15, 2018 at 1:32 am

    With all this talk about Jack Sock’s fall, another player who has fallen deep in the rankings is Andrey Kuznetsov, who was ranked No. 39 in 2016 and reached two semifinals last season, losing to Dolgopolov in Bastad and Warinka in Geneva.

    Now he is ranked in the 600s. What happened to the Russian?

  • catherine · August 15, 2018 at 2:19 am

    What’s this – T-P becoming a gossip sheet ? Svitolina gets past Kuznetsova in 3 long sets which is probably more important to her than uninformed tittle tattle about her personal life.

    But I would agree that her loss of weight affected her game. She probably lost strength and stamina without being completely aware of it at the time.

    Kvitova puts out Serena in 3, another long match. I’m pleased for Petra and not too sorry for Serena.

  • catherine · August 15, 2018 at 2:54 am

    Serena’s living in a dream. She’s talking as though her career is just starting and she’s got it all before her. I suspect her colleagues don’t feel the same. Wounded lion. But from what I saw, a good match which put that dreary Montreal final in perspective. The WTA highlights showed all Serena’s winners 🙂

    Kerber meets her old rival Pavs and I wouldn’t bet on the result. Angie’s only played one match since Wimbledon, she says she wants more matches but I’m thinking she could struggle to get them. She has such tremendous highs and then long lows and she’s floundering.

    You get what you most want and for a while everything else seems nothing.

  • catherine · August 15, 2018 at 3:02 am

    Hartt must be pleased to see Denis go past Edmund in straightforward fashion.

  • catherine · August 15, 2018 at 3:23 am

    Serena’s living in a dream. She’s talking as though her career is just beginning. I doubt her colleagues see it that way. More like a wounded lion.

    This was a good match though – put that dreary Montreal final in perspective. The WTA highlights showed all Serena’s winners 🙂

    Kerber meets her old rival Pavs and I wouldn’t bet on the result. Angie’s played one match since Wimbledon and she’s struggling. She has such tremendous highs and then long lows where she flounders and her mental approach gets fixed in entropy.

    When you get what you most want, everything else, for a while, must seem nothing.

  • Hartt · August 15, 2018 at 7:54 am

    Catherine, I was thrilled that Denis won, although it wasn’t straightforward. The first set was very close, and it wasn’t clear who would win, when Denis managed to get the break to take it 7-5. Then, in the 2nd set Denis seemed to be cruising, was up 4-0, when he started to make UFEs and Kyle got it back on serve. When it looked like a TB was likely, Kyle had to save 4 MPs on his serve before Denis took the match on the 5th match point.

    Both guys played well overall, except for some wobbles at the start and Denis’ lapse in the 2nd. They both hit huge FHs and Denis had several of his jaw-dropping winners. But I was pleased to see that Denis played with margin for the most part and did not seem compelled to go for a winner too soon.

  • catherine · August 15, 2018 at 8:06 am

    Hartt – I caught a few highlights of Denis’ match after I wrote that, and no, it wasn’t straightforward but at least SS.

    What happened to Felix ? Did you see the match ? I don’t know anything about Bemelmans except presumably he’s older and more experienced.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 15, 2018 at 8:18 am

    Felix going backwards again losing to Bemelmans who is ranked lower and is 30 years old. These are the kinds of losses that concern me about Felix and his development.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 15, 2018 at 8:21 am

    Kubler over Kokkinakis is kwestionable, though Kubler has persevered through bad knee problems which at one time prevented him from playing any pro tournaments on hard courts for years, he only played clay events. He battled through it and is now on the cusp of being a top 100 player. Kokkinakis should get through US Open qualis. He’s on fire now.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 15, 2018 at 8:22 am

    Kuznetsov was a solid top 100 guy, you have to think it’s injuries that caused the ranking to drop, I doubt it’s due to excessive losing.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 15, 2018 at 8:23 am

    Serena has been back now for nearly 9 mths and she’s still not the same player. Not looking good right now for Serena.

  • George · August 15, 2018 at 8:25 am

  • catherine · August 15, 2018 at 8:26 am

    Don’t know what happened above ! I wrote the first comment which then vanished totally so I rewrote it and now both are there. It’s not self-importance I swear. Computers….

    The second comment is better – I remembered the word entropy 🙂

  • Duke Carnoustie · August 15, 2018 at 11:00 am

    Looks like Kuznetsov has been injured for quite some time.

    Svitolina’s weight-loss program smacks of desperation. So does her constant talk of hot guys and whatnot. Not sure she has what it takes to be a champion.

    That’s why you have to admire women like Halep, Kerber and even Shazza since they don’t go pining on about falling in love and instead focus on what it takes to become a champion. Shazza had to dump Grigor because she realized he was an underachiever as opposed to the ruthless competitor she is.

    This Borna Gojo is playing solid tennis in these challengers. He is known for hooking opponents in college matches as one of the all-international team members on Wake Forest’s NCAA championship team. He will no doubt get a wild card into the Winston Salem Open. I will try to watch him play.

  • Thomas Tung · August 15, 2018 at 11:28 am

    I don’t think that Felix’s loss to Bemelmans is a big deal, because in this hyper-competitive day and age, the young guns aren’t “marching to inevitable victory, sweeping aside the rusty remnants of a faded age of glory” (to use bombastic language). As Federer said not too long ago, the “old fogies” will still be around for a few years yet. The age of the NextGen is still stuck in the “elevator of progress, going up and down”. Overall difficulty level on Tour is a quantum leap over the 1980s/1990s/early 2000s (early aughts?).

  • Hartt · August 15, 2018 at 11:45 am

    I did see Felix’s match. It was a combination of Bemelmans playing well and Felix not at his best. Actually, Scoop, there is not a big difference in their rankings and Bemelmans is a wily vet. I was disappointed in Felix’s play, but he is barely 18, a youngster still learning his craft, so I don’t expect him to be super consistent.

  • Duke Carnoustie · August 15, 2018 at 11:45 am

    Donaldson pulls out of Winston-Salem and his U.S. Open is in doubt. He has a knee injury that kept him out of Cincinnati and his ranking will drop since he reached the QFs in Cincy last year.

    I’d expect him to play in NY but the betting money is that he won’t win a match after this injury.

  • Duke Carnoustie · August 15, 2018 at 11:53 am

    Svitolina says she is no longer with the cricket player so that is why she is discussing the hottest guys.

    The interview just got posted to reddit…

    https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/97ilvo/svitolina_names_dimitrov_lopez_verdasco_sascha/

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 15, 2018 at 12:15 pm

    Berdych supposed injury is suspect. He posted photos on IG of riding bikes with no sign of any knee injury. Makes you wonder…

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 15, 2018 at 12:16 pm

    I’m 98% sure Felix will be fine, just losses like this are accumulating and they can have an adverse effect on his confidence and psyche. Kozlov had a lot of these type losses and he’s now ranked a totally irrelevant 250 something. DY had a lot of these losses and he’s now irrelevant too.

  • catherine · August 15, 2018 at 12:22 pm

    Duke – I wouldn’t be too hard on Svitolina – she’s still young and maybe a bit naïve and says and does things she may later regret. I’m sure she really wants to do better but it could take time and a re-arrangement of her priorities. I wonder if she is getting good advice re nutrition etc. The WTA is supposed to help in things like that, so we are told.

    As far as the other women you admire for their focus go, they may indeed have private lives – they just aren’t talking about them to the media. Simona, Angie etc weren’t born yesterday. Their interviews are usually a yawn because they say only what they want you to know. Gossip starts from the odd comment dropped when someone’s not paying attention. Or something ill-advised on IG. You quickly learn. Petko, whom you admire, is extremely sophisticated in that way. She could run seminars 🙂

  • catherine · August 15, 2018 at 12:30 pm

    You see what happens when you start blabbing to the media ? All this stuff is blah – just let it go away.
    (‘I never made it as a player but I was very big on Reddit’)

    Not the way to prepare for a GS tournament.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 15, 2018 at 12:56 pm

    Let’s just hope Svitolina doesn’t pull an Azarenka where she was practically begging Monfils to take her out, on Ashe Stadium after a win, during the on court interview. Anybody remember that embarrassingly desperate episode?

  • catherine · August 15, 2018 at 1:19 pm

    No – I don’t remember but it sounds cringeworthy. Bet Monfils did a runner when he saw her coming. Azarenka doesn’t seem to have much luck with relationships. Not doing too well on court either.

    Kasatkina lost in her first match and I didn’t even notice. 12 dfs.

    What next for Daria ? Qualifying ? She might join Osaka there.

  • Dan Markowitz · August 15, 2018 at 2:21 pm

    Scoop,

    You keep looping/lopping DY together with The Koz. Come on, that’s ridiculous. DY
    ‘s won 123 matches on tour, The Koz 5. DY’s been as high as #39, The Koz #115. The Koz’s career at 20 is most likely over for being a top 100 player, DY at 29 beat Stan Wawrinka a couple of weeks ago. He might be #238 now, but I’ll wager you he’s back inside Top 100 by this time next year.

    Looping DY with The Koz is like looping Roger Federer with Vince Spadea.

    I don’t think it’s a given that Felix is going to be a Top 20 player. His backhand looked like a hole to me and we’ve seen what sub-par backhands (read Jack Sock) can do to a player’s hopes of being an elite player.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 15, 2018 at 2:39 pm

    Dan, Kozlov and Young are both now ranked together around 250, Koz hammered DY in their last meeting in Sarasota in straight sets. You know the old saying, What have you done for me lately? Both aren’t doing much for anyone lately. I think it’s folly to write off Koz now at age 20, Estrella didn’t crack the top 100 till age 33 and then he won 3 ATP titles. Everybody has a different journey.

  • Duke Carnoustie · August 15, 2018 at 2:40 pm

    Haase with no regard for the NextGen as he beat Shapo last week and Zverev now.

    If these guys can’t handle Haase, we shouldn’t expect them to contend for Slams.

  • Duke Carnoustie · August 15, 2018 at 3:15 pm

    Re: Koz and DY. I think they both stink.

  • Dan Markowitz · August 15, 2018 at 3:24 pm

    Duke,

    You make a good point regarding NextGen players, but I’m sure you wish you could stink your way to 124 wins on tour. DY’s too good to be ranked no 238. He’s the same age as Spadea when Vince came back from no 227 to no 19. I don’t think we’ll see DY get so high, but he’s not finished yet and he’s very talented.

  • Hartt · August 15, 2018 at 3:31 pm

    Why is everyone being so hard on Felix? He is, I repeat, barely 18!

    I saw his match against Pouille live and he was terrific. Of course he doesn’t play at his best in every match, he is barely 18.

    If, in 2 years, when he is all of 20, he is not getting good results, then there may be cause for concern. But now they are laying the groundwork for future success, not looking for short-term results. Louis Borfiga, head of high performance for Tennis Canada, has been very clear about that.

  • Duke Carnoustie · August 15, 2018 at 3:55 pm

    Dan, must be nice living in the past. Fact is that DY, like Sock, is currently terrible. Of course, if we want to live in the past, only one of them is racist so there is that.

    Oh Canada! Looks like we have another milos v Shapo showdown.

  • Dan Markowitz · August 15, 2018 at 3:56 pm

    Hartt,

    Felix has the bad luck or actually good luck to be coming on the heels of Shapo and he’s clearly not measuring up yet to what his predecessor has accomplished, not even close so he’s got a hard measuring stick.

    And I always joke with coaches of junior players who tell me about my son, “Ah, the results don’t matter now in the 12’s. It’s about developing his game.” I don’t agree with that. Yes, you want to have an eye on what kind of player you want him to be at 16 or 18 or 21, but this is a race and I tell my son, “Win now. This is a race and you always want to stay out in front of the pack.”

    Scoop, I don’t think you can compare Estrella Burgos with The Koz. The latter’s had the best coaching in America and is 250 at 20. The Dominican probably had little to no coaching as a junior.

  • catherine · August 15, 2018 at 4:05 pm

    Muguruza goes out to Tsurenko and Kerber is losing 1st set to Pav and then the rain comes down.

  • catherine · August 15, 2018 at 4:22 pm

    Darren Cahill wants more on court coaching. He wants the player to be able to call out the coach more or less whenever they want, as far as I can judge.
    Why not just have the coach actually there with the player on the court dictating shots ? Why not take the racquet themselves when things get bad ?

    He says players get so lonely (only women I assume) that they need the companionship of the coach.

    You know, I never hear women in other sports going on so much about being ‘lonely’ – certainly not in athletics where you are really out there on your own.

  • Duke Carnoustie · August 15, 2018 at 4:45 pm

    Catherine is right. The coaching makes the women look mentally frail and in need of a male voice since all the coaches are men. I assume this idea was by a man who figured the women’s game was too feminine.

    How do these women win Slams without the coach? It’s amazing.

  • Jg · August 15, 2018 at 4:54 pm

    I just saw a news report that said Kyrigos forgot to bring his tennis shoes to his first round match and they had to delay it, that’s like forgetting your racquet, his head really isn’t in it.

  • Hartt · August 15, 2018 at 5:24 pm

    People make it sound as though Felix has been doing poorly, and that’s not the case. He is No. 114 in the live rankings, by far the youngest in the top 200. The only other 18-year-old I can find is Kecmanovic, who is several months older than Felix and is ranked No. 196.

    Felix won his first Challenger title at 16, and had 3 Challenger titles before the age of 18. Only Novak, Delpo and Gasquet have done that.

    To compare him with Shapo, each won a junior Slam, and of course they won the USO boys’ title together. But Shapo has 2 Challenger titles, 1 less than Felix, and Denis was still playing Challengers last July, so it’s not as though he played fewer of them. When he turned 18 he was ranked about No. 178, so much lower than Felix at the same age.

    Felix is still breaking records. Last June, when he successfully defended his Lyon title at age 17, he became the youngest player ever to retain a Challenger title. The kid is doing just fine.

  • Scoop Malinowski · August 15, 2018 at 5:34 pm

    My guess is Kyrgios schemed this charade, as he knew it would generate a lot of publicity. Nick knows how to create news and smokescreens. Maybe it’s part of his master plan: softening everyone up to take him lightly while secretly plotting to unleash his greatest tennis perhaps at US Open.

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