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Who is Andy accusing?

Andy_Murray_Finals[1]Andy Murray has fired the latest round of ‘PEDs are prevalent in tennis’ accusations: Andy told the Mail On Sunday: “I have played against players and thought, ‘They won’t go away’ or ‘They don’t seem to be getting tired’. Have I ever been suspicious of someone? Yeah. You hear things.”

“It’s harder to tell in our sport as people can make big improvements to a stroke or start serving better because they have made technical changes.”

“If it’s purely physical and you’re watching someone playing six-hour matches over and over and showing no signs of being tired, you’d look at that.” Ouch!

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  • Author comment by Scoop Malinowski · April 26, 2016 at 1:54 pm

    Great win by Kozlov today in Tallahassee was down 67 76 03 and break point to go down 04 and Fernadez Hernadez net corded the backhand return – then all the sudden Kozlov just rolled to 64 win – with an ace down the tee on match point – Very impressive win today by Kozlov vs the Dominican -

  • Andrew Miller · April 26, 2016 at 2:01 pm

    Wonder about pre WADA silent bans, both for wta and ATP tours. Some of this stuff will stay under wraps for a long time. Would think a few unknowns ti the public are huge. You guys would know better what’s in the rumors, whispers, shadows. Right now there’s more emphasis on the match fixing, because it is easy to do and there isn’t much in the way of enforcement, and the vast majority is probably at small venues with low ranked players. But a players opponent would be able to pick up on this pretty quickly, if his opponent all of the sudden quits without warning, plays too poorly to be believable, etc. Probably the hardest one to catch is two players in a match colluding, so it looks like a legit result with a clean scoreline.

    This stuff is happening. I’d think most of it is in Europe at the low ATP and challenger level where there isn’t much scrutiny.

  • Author comment by Scoop Malinowski · April 26, 2016 at 5:33 pm

    That whole episode when Rafa won Paris then skipped Wimbledon with the injury was highly curious. And the six hour SF win vs Verdasco then beating Fed in the Australian Open final was also superhuman.

  • Andrew Miller · April 26, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    Scoop, what year did nadal win French and opt out of Wimbledon?

  • Andrew Miller · April 26, 2016 at 8:45 pm

    My hunch is on the wta side. A player that left the sport and came back, then retired for good. Struck me as weird to unretire, then reretire, especially as a big time champ.

  • sharoten · April 26, 2016 at 11:52 pm

    Scoop Malinowski – April 26 at 12:36 pm “Wonder if the records at Operation Puerto will be undestroyed and released – that whole issue “Operation Puerto” with the Spanish athletes was suspicious – especially that the list of all the athletes involved with Operation Puerto were destroyed and kept private from the public -”

    Getting ugly now are you? What has Operation Puerto got to do with Rafa, other than the fact that he too has asked for all the records to be made public and that nothing be destroyed.

    I am so sick of Puerto being scurrilously thrown out there whenever Rafa’s name is mentioned. Puerto was active in the late 90s and early 00s when Rafa was a kid. The evidence used against Puerto when he was brought to trial was from 02-06 even though the trial was a few years later. It’s completely unjust to link Rafa’s name to him just because they’re both Spanish. You’d be irate if the same thing was done constantly to John Isner about HGH or some stupid drug just because a Miami clinic was taken down and ‘some tennis players’ were mentioned. Sorry Dan, I think my description of some posters here as idiots was apt.

  • catherine bell · April 27, 2016 at 7:25 am

    What more can Nadal do ? He’s suing, then he’s publicising his drug tests – and there are still people who harp on about ‘curious’ episodes in his career.

    My guess, as I’ve said before, is that the top players are most likely clean – apart from the one we know about.

    All sorts of hints etc can be made about players on websites all over the place – proves nothing except that anyone can say anything.

    Andrew – why don’t you name the wta player ?

  • Author comment by Scoop Malinowski · April 27, 2016 at 7:28 am

    Operation Puerto’s records being destroyed stunk to the high heavens of hiding evidence and protecting certain big name athletes – that’s all I’m saying – why destroy it? Why not release it?

  • Author comment by Scoop Malinowski · April 27, 2016 at 7:31 am

    Andrew: It was the year 2009 Rafa lost to Soderling then after curious delay pulled out of Wimbledon because of tendinitis in both knees – though we didn’t see any sign of injury at French Open – that whole drama was strange – but who knows: “Truth is stranger than fiction” –

  • Author comment by Scoop Malinowski · April 27, 2016 at 7:33 am

    marcelo rios: “If Agassi or Sampras ever test positive you guys in the media will never know about it because they are too important for the tour” — jonas bjorkman: “I have heard of the itf covering up positive tests” (quote in a 1999 issue of sports illustrated) -

  • Moskova Moskova · April 27, 2016 at 7:48 am

    To all of you “sheeple-types” on TP : keep on popping out more kids and buy into the corporate machines !…..No lies / miscommunications are ever told to the public LOL ;)

    With that said, nadal / djoko are still innocent until proven guilty…

  • Andrew Miller · April 27, 2016 at 3:26 pm

    Naming them is less fun. I’d rather believe the wta player used. She is no longer on tour.

  • Moskova Moskova · April 27, 2016 at 3:51 pm

    henin ?

  • catherine bell · April 28, 2016 at 8:03 am

    Moskova – your guess is about mine.

    Andrew – it’s all very well having ‘fun’ not naming names but it is presumably not fun for the player whose identity you’ve made pretty clear.
    What you’d ‘rather believe’ and what’s actually true may be different entities.

    (BTW I’ve no idea if she doped or not)

  • Andrew Miller · April 28, 2016 at 12:20 pm

    Catherine, much as I’d like to say she doped, there’s no evidence. But when you retire at the absolute zenith of the game and in the prime of your playing years, return, suddenly quit just as fast as returning. Player denied this and was angry anyone would ask – even think this.

    So, sure, all speculation. But there are norms in the sport, and none of them were followed. Maybe this is a men/women thing, but I don’t think so.

  • Author comment by Scoop Malinowski · April 28, 2016 at 12:38 pm

    Henin was asked about Sharapova being caught cheating and Henin gave a very interesting cryptic answer – did anyone see that?

  • catherine bell · April 28, 2016 at 12:49 pm

    Why was Henin asked ? She’s not exactly a current player.

    It’s possible her answer was ‘cryptic’ because she’s sick to death of doping rumours. :)

    And it’s unlikely she’d draw attention to herself if she were guilty..

    As far as I recall Henin had injury problems at some point and probably realised (doping aside) that it wasn’t going to work out for her.

  • Andrew Miller · April 28, 2016 at 12:51 pm

    Ha! That’s called protecting HOF spot.

  • Andrew Miller · April 28, 2016 at 12:52 pm

    Could be b/c meldo supplies were low @ the time.

  • catherine bell · April 28, 2016 at 12:56 pm

    Next thing we’ll be told Kim Klijsters was doping….

    And what about BJK who took time off in the seventies ? No doubt to clear all those steroids from her system.She needed them of course to beat Bobby Riggs :)

  • Author comment by Scoop Malinowski · April 28, 2016 at 1:20 pm

    Henin said she was “disappointed” and that “I’m not in a position to judge” -

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