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Kyrgiosmania at Miami Open

miamiopenNick Kyrgios is playing Miami Open and it’s been a special experience for the rising Aussie. Kyrgios defeated Andrey Kuznetsov in straight sets on grandstand to reach his very first Masters Series quarterfinal. But most impressive today for Kyrgios was the surprisingly animated and colorful crowd support he received. Through the second set changeovers a group of young kids continually sang/chanted “Let’s go Nick lets go” over and over and over through entire changeovers and also AFTER the match was completed. I have never seen a foreign player attract and inspire such vocal loyalty and support. Also during the last game of the match when Kyrgios was serving for the win a male fan yelled out in the middle of the game “NO MERCY!” So Nick’s colorful cocky persona is also inspiring colorful cocky crowd support which will surely add a new spicy flavor to the sport. Kyrgios exited the court and signed for a very large throng of fans mostly teenagers and in their twenties… RANDOM NOTES AND OBSERVATIONS: Two players have actually worn all whites this week – Marcel Granollers in doubles and Richard Gasquet today’s loss to Berdych (which their head to head is now deadlocked at 7-7)… Kei Nishikori didn’t start his fourth round Match against Roberto Agut Bautista until 10 at night but he was here practicing in the morning at 11:30. I would have expected Kei to arrive at the site at around six and hit for an hour then play at about nine. You have to respect Kei’s work ethic… Andanina Vilas is the twelve year old daughter of Guillermo Vilas and I was told by an Argentine reporter that she is “winning everything” in Argentina. She is a tall girl (like her Thai mother and legendary father) and employs a one-handed backhand. Andanina Vilas Roland Garros champion 2024?.. . A California tennis insider told me the Taylor Fritz family is very wealthy and there is absolutely no financial pressure on Taylor to win… Benoit Paire the hot tempered Frenchman erupted a few times in a doubles match yesterday against the Aussie wildcards Omar Jasika and John Patrick Smith. Paire and David Marrero lost 63 64 and the sometimes volatile lost his cool several times – repeatedly kicking the fence and trying to jump over the net but mismeasuring his leap so that his foot landed on the net cord and he basically jumped and stepped over the net. A very odd and risky maneuver which could have resulted in a serious injury… Monica Niculescu is into the doubles quarters with Maria Gasparyan – they beat Hingza 64 62 in the second round – and she also had a strange singles match in the second round beating Peng Shuai. In the match Niculescu was up a set 6-1 and 3-0 before suddenly collapsing and losing six straight games. Niculescu looked so exhausted and ill from the extreme heat that Peng’s fitness coach actually thought Niculescu was going to retire as she walked to her chair after the second set. Well guess what? She didn’t retire and her illness / fatigue problems suddenly disappeared. Niculescu handily beat Peng in the third set 6-0… The Bryan Brothers had an early afternoon practice which was amazing to see. They were doing all kinds of astonishing volley drills. Especially one where they both volleyed to each other while both moving and rotating all around their halves of the court. Every ball taken out of the air and volleyed back to the brother and each volley was hit quite hard. It was incredible to witness. The struggling Bryans who did not win a major last year and have blown over a dozen match points this year will play Jasika/Smith in the quarters…Fantastic battle between Djokovic and Thiem today. The score was the exact as their first meeting in China in 2014 63 64 but Djokovic was severely threatened today and was very relieved to get it over with. Thiem proved he has the shots to beat and overpower Djokovic and hung in there all the way. Djokovic had to save over a dozen break points and needed four or five match points to finally subdue this young tiger. After seeing this match and how hard Thiem forced Djokovic to work and struggle I will say right now we now know who the heir apparent will be. After the match Djokovic said Thiem is one of the heaviest baseline hitters on the Tour. Thiem said he’s still not sure if he can beat Djokovic and he will need to review the match to figure out if he can. One thing is for sure: Nobody not even Djokovic will be happy to have Thiem in their quarter of the draw in Paris…

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  • Dan Markowitz · March 30, 2016 at 8:49 am

    That’s pretty amazing about Vilas’ daughter. We’ve never had a great champion’s daughter become a great player. One-handed backhand too, just like pa. You wonder how much influence Vilas has had on his daughter’s game now. He’s pretty old now.

    Watching Thiem v Djoko for a little bit in first set, it was bad luck Thiem’s backhand down the line went long (after it was called good and Thiem would’ve had the break at 3-5, but Djoko’s challenge prevailed) or else it might’ve been interesting.

    But I wonder if any one-handed backhand player will ever win a hard court or grass slam ever again. Of the younger guys, the possibilities are only two, Thiem and Dimitrov. Is there any young player still hitting a one-hander besides these two? And on the return of serve it seems to be a problem. Thiem has a great backhand, but he missed a number of bh returns long because he doesn’t chip his return the way Wawa will/does. It’s unfortunate, but on the return, the one-hander seems to be a big disadvantage.

    Thiem was having success dumping the slice short angle ball to Djoko’s backhand and making the Serb either slice back or commit to going for a winning shot.

  • Stephen Warren · March 30, 2016 at 9:59 am

    Been an avid reader for a good while, but your post on Kyrgios’ borderless appeal prompted me to share. I was lucky enough to see Nick at the Madrid masters last year. An outside court, early round (think he beat roger the next day), and he’s playing Spaniard Daniel Gimeno-traver but we were amazed that a group of about 20 young local kids were vehemently cheering on Nk. I know they were an impressionable age (easily swayed by a haircut) but it still showed the potency of his appeal. And not just to kids. I’m a life long addict to the sport and have seen many greats up close, but this dude is plain arresting. Not just his skill and athleticism but his engagement with the crowd. There’s caveats ofcourse. One, he’s got to stop sulking. At the moment his negative crowd interactions are on a par with his positive/funny ones. He has to tip this balance the right way soon. A surly teen is one thing, a surly 22/23 year old is just sad. The bigger question is can he keep that level of irreverent crowd banter/interaction – even if totally positive – and get o the very top. It’s a balance I guess. Picking the right time in matches. If he can produce (and reproduce) his best tennis and be the opposite of Raonic in terms of oncourt demeanour then this sport has found the replacement for the inevitable exits of the current aging giants. Long first post hey?

  • Andrew Miller · March 30, 2016 at 2:50 pm

    Kyrgios antics again! He’s clearly the best player of his generation but he and Tomic make headlines for the wrong reasons. Must be the thing about growing up in the public eye. I have no doubt Aussie press follows him to every tournament and Australia is hoping for a new champion asap. It’s similar to Roddick but Kyrgios has to understand that this is it ) it is how he handles the distractions . There is only one parallel to me regarding Kyrgios and that’s Agassi. Like Agassi I don’t think Kyrgios enjoys being this good. And maybe wishes he was doing something else.

    At some point he will have to square with that reality that yeah, he is by far Australias best player and that brings with it some serious responsibility . Djokovic went through some of this. Harrison did too. He’s nowhere near as bad as the guys in the 70s and 80s. But the bottom line is he has the ability to win a slam soon and that’s way beyond the reach of most of his top 50 peers. Including Thiem.

  • Dan Markowitz · March 30, 2016 at 5:09 pm

    What to make of the Williams’s sisters these days? One remarkable thing about Serena is she’s gone from being the young Williams sister to being the only real viable Williams sisters. Venus is pretty much unwatchable these days from her odd bearing, her ungainly gait, her awful-looking serve and her matches are generally very boring.

    Serena is once again acting like a prima donna in her very short press conferences. She complained about all her opponents getting up to play her. When would Federer or Nadal make such a ridiculous complaint? As BJK would say, “Pressure is a privilege.”

    Serena can appear almost bored by playing at the beginning of her matches to crying and making faces only a 9-year-old would make later in her matches. She’s unbecoming of a champion in this regard and you wonder how much longer either or both of them will stay around the scene.

  • Scoop Malinowski · March 30, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    Great post Stephen – the sulking is part of his appeal I believe and it shows his vulnerability which is appealing to many fans who will give Nick that extra boost – I think the massive support is partly generated because of his sulking – these fans want to push Nick to fulfill his huge potential – it’s a very interesting dynamic that is forming – Really looking forward to seeing Nick’s practice tomorrow and the match with Raonic who he is 1-2 against but he won the last meeting – all three of their matches were in majors –

  • stephen warren · March 31, 2016 at 1:32 am

    Interesting take on the psychology at play. I never thought of it that way, but I guess when a crowd senses it is directly influencing a performance they’ll feed off it as much as the player. Virtuous cycle for player and spectator. I’m Australian and knowing the sentiment and coverage here (not helped by seemingly taking the Davis Cup for granted – big sin in these parts) the sulking makes the wider public see him as spoilt and weak. In a country that worships the stoicism and toughness of rugby, that’s usually a life sentence in the popularity stakes. The jury is still out though, as the scent of possible greatness buys you some time. But I’d still take his displays over his upcoming opponent for one simple reason. When you take a liking or disliking to a player you’re engaged in the contest. It takes the enjoyment of the combative nature of this gladiatorial sport to another level. How do you take a position on a player who gives you nothing. Milos v a Berdych for eg is a great exhibition of skill. But exhibition is the key word. It’s something to appreciate rather than be part of.

  • Moskova Moskova · March 31, 2016 at 8:17 am

    kyrgios-mania is valid…..unlike fritz or any other schleps hyped too often on TP. I like kyrgios in 3.

  • Scoop Malinowski · March 31, 2016 at 8:35 am

    Stephen: I think Berdych and Raonic fail to utilize the great advantageous asset which is lively fan support – Nalbandian Cilic Ljubicic were also very stoic and did not tap into this energy source – Djokovic just talked about it after Thiem win – I will get the quotes later – managing fan support and getting them on your side is a lot more advantageous than losing them to the other player Djokovic said – Kyrgios is still young and learning this process and subtle but important aspect of being a champion – one thing is sure though and that’s the fact that Kyrgios has a very powerful growing fanbase in his corner and he has to learn how to fully harvest it and bear its fruits –

  • Scoop Malinowski · March 31, 2016 at 8:36 am

    You need to see Fritz play live and in the flesh mm –

  • Scoop Malinowski · March 31, 2016 at 8:59 am

    Fritz just lost in first round of mexico challenger to Agustin 5 ft 5 Velotti of Arg 75 in fifth – Kozlov beat Velotti in FL Futures a month ago in three sets –

  • Scoop Malinowski · March 31, 2016 at 9:01 am

    Here is the quotes- Q. You always find a way to have the crowd have a lot of support for the other guy. Either you’re destroying their idols or now the next generation guy is coming up and everybody is excited to see a good match. Does it get you angry? Amused? You roll with it? What’s your feeling about this?
    NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Well, you know, in the end of the day of course you would like to have the majority of the crowd supporting you, being behind you in the important moments, because that kind of support kind of de-stresses and you gives you that necessary strength and motivation to really showcase your full potential, if I may say.

    Obviously it’s better playing with crowd behind you than crowd behind your opponent’s back. Now, I don’t feel that every match I play against opponent, against the crowd. I don’t feel that I play against the crowd at all. Crowd loves to see entertaining matches, but I get a lot of support. I don’t take that for granted. I am really grateful for that.

    In the end of the day, whatever is the situation and whatever crowd decides, you know, who to support and which side to go, I got to do my job. I need to try to focus on this moment and executing the game plan.

    But we have to be honest that it’s better when you have crowd on your side.

  • Andrew Miller · March 31, 2016 at 10:27 am

    Fritz has trouble versus short opponents. They keep the big fella on the run.

    Berdych played great last night. He’s just unlucky for being around in this era of four great players. As to why he wasn’t the fourth – why Murray, not Berdych? I think that might be a money thing. Murray had a whole country footing the bill for his pre-Lendl training. Seeing Lendl coach Murray was like a sucker punch.

  • Andrew Miller · March 31, 2016 at 10:30 am

    I don’t think I buy the crowd stuff – Djokovic feeds on crowd’s energy that’s turned AGAINST him. And Berdych last night had a lot of fans who wanted him to turn the contest into a real match. I didn’t perceive any love for the Djoker in Miami – they like him fine, he has a Serbian contingent there cheering for him, but it’s not much of one.

    To some extent the player wouldn’t be there without the audience, so it’s a set piece. Comes with the territory.

    If the crowd mattered to the expense of everything else, why does Monfils ever lose? He’s far and away the most fun player to watch on tour – he is like the new Santoro. The crowd is ALWAYS on the side of Monfils.

  • Dan Markowitz · March 31, 2016 at 11:28 am

    Very impressed with your posts, Stephen, and your analysis of Kyrgios. Makes it more cogent that you’re Australian and bring in the ideal persona of a rugged stoic Aussie rugby player that Nick certainly clashes with. I interviewed Kyrgios one to one in IW last year and I was taken by the difference in his in-match persona (against Kudla that night where I too was amazed by his ability to enlist the crowd; he was more business-like in his next match against Dimitrov) and his out-of-match persona where he was down to earth, somewhat soft-spoken and seemed like a good mate.

    I wouldn’t put Berdie in Raonic’s category as I think Berdie has a nice personality to him and flashes smiles somewhat easily. Raonic is a total robot, but also more personable outside of the court. The interesting question as you state it well, is can Kyrgios still engage the crowd and play a bit of the bad guy role (I find it interesting he’s started wearing a big gold cross–is it to get more people on his side, sort of like saying, “Hey, I’m religious. I’m a God-fearing man”) because I think that rebelliousness and non-conformity will always be a part of his persona.

  • catherine bell · March 31, 2016 at 11:38 am

    I don’t believe players, especially the top ones, care at all about ‘fans’ or people in the crowd or anything but the person the other side of the net.

    That’s who matters.

    Fans and fandom can be a pain sometimes. And Serena, judging by some of her recent behaviour in those awful press conferences, is coming a lot closer to reality -she doesn’t want to be there and her indifference is in its way honest.

  • Thomas Tung · March 31, 2016 at 12:06 pm

    I think Serena wants what Connors, too, also wanted — that their peers stay in awe of their accomplishments (and mentally concede games, sets, even some matches). Just that Connors was much smarter at maintaining that “mystique” than Serena is (or ever was). That and I don’t see Serena mounting a Slam semifinal run at age 39. But, given the state of affairs on the WTA Tour, such might even be a possibility.

  • catherine bell · March 31, 2016 at 1:27 pm

    Yes – Connors from early years was certainly keen on the aura of supremacy – and he had a very strong public identification as an American from the wrong side of the tracks. He loved getting crowds behind him and the crowds loved him – in the US at least.

    With Serena it’s obviously a lot more complicated, race,being a woman etc. Her ‘mystique’ has also taken a bit of a bashing lately – she doesn’t have the cultural ‘cushion’ that Connors had. So her outbursts and apparent disaffection from the game at present (she’s not training, gained weight etc) just have an alienating effect.
    Connors never had that problem. He was endlessly forgiven, more than Mac.

  • Andrew Miller · March 31, 2016 at 1:50 pm

    I think players can definitely care. If anything they use it, channel it – sometimes direct it. I know Tatiana Golovin “heard” the crowd some time back in Miami against Sharapova – she was behind and then fed off the crowd energy for sure and somewhere during the match decided to play for the crowd as much as for herself. It was a great show. Best match I’ve “participated” in.

    Sometimes a player “uses” the crowd – like Harrison a year plus ago at a Virginia challenger. He was in front of a small crowd that was pro his opponent (and wanted to see an upset) and Harrison started using them as a way to get himself going. Every time he’d win a game he’d shoot a glance over to the bleachers at his vocal crowd critics, as if to say, “your cheering for my opponent is firing ME up and contributing to the beat down for him – you’re doing him no favors – sure you don’t want to back a winner here?”

    So sometimes the crowd is a prop. I’d say for some Djokovic matches, where Djokovic faces a crowd that’s for his opponents, he takes it as a challenge – as in, they’ll be clapping for me by the time this is done.

    Agassi knew this too.

    Sampras knew it too late. The crowd carried him to his 14th slam and through his final match. He might have had 16, 17, 18 slams if he knew about how to work the crowd.

  • catherine bell · March 31, 2016 at 2:45 pm

    Andrew –

    I suppose we can agree to disagree about this.
    I’ve never seen ‘working the crowd’ as part of a player’s job. A good player shouldn’t be bothered. Although, as I’ve said, Connors certainly did that.

    I’m thinking Chris Evert here. She learned early on to ignore the crowd. Considering her early fame, she just had to.

    I think my original comment was more about fans – about identication with a player – about that, no, they certainly don’t care. Fans can be a pest.

  • Dan Markowitz · March 31, 2016 at 3:33 pm

    I agree with Catherine. It’s not the player’s job to work the crowd and the fact that Sampras was able to disengage himself from the crowd probably led to his success. We see what happened to Harry being too sensitive about what the crowd and the media was talking about.

    I think what Stephen says though about Kyrgios being able to engage the crowd and still play stellar tennis is a rare quality. Yes, Connors had it, but I don’t think until later in his career. Monfils can do it too, but now he may be understanding that winning involves focus and now showmanship.

  • Rob · March 31, 2016 at 7:57 pm

    Did Kygrios just sabr Raonic?

  • stephen warren · March 31, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    In terms of crowd participation I was talking mainly from my/our point of view – as spectators. From a players point of view some, of course some care and some don’t. Just like life, some people want to be the centre of attention and others just want to do their thing in peace. Prob a better way of looking at it – or categorising players – is how close to surface are their emotions. Because it’s not just crowd that’ll affect them. It’s line calls, the opponent’s demeanor, their own errors or winners. The crowd is just one current of many. Some players drop anchor and can keep it there while others get tossed about. The latter types will win some matches they should of lost but they’ll lose some matches they should’ve one.

    Looks like the Rebel beat the Robot – this time anyway.

  • Scoop Malinowski · March 31, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    Because Lamonf isn’t quite good enough to win against the elites – he’s close though – what a fantastic match today with Kei – epic battle – One of Kei’s greatest matches – I asked my friend colleague Aki for her favorite Kei wins after today’s epic and she said the US Open win over Djokovic in 14 and this one today ranks right up there – Lamonf just gets a little too defensive when it matters most – five match points saved by Kei who is now 2-0 vs Gael –

  • Scoop Malinowski · March 31, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    Well to be a believer in God and Jesus in these times is almost not the norm anymore Dan – it’s just another bold statement by Nick who is not afraid to express his beliefs or feelings – I thought I saw a bitch slap hand motion after winning a key point in the second set – That Nick is fun to watch – a helluva lot more entertaining than guys like Simon Raonic or Goffin who are nice players but total robots – It was amusing to see the French Leqipe journo feign snoring TWICE in the press box during the second set of Simon vs Goffin yesterday – Simon is boring even to the French media – personality wise perhaps but I love Simon’s game and his court sense is second to none –

  • Scoop Malinowski · March 31, 2016 at 10:03 pm

    Catherine: most all the top players are like presidential candidates – they all want approval and acceptance from the voting public – The only players I can think of who didn’t give a hoot about the fans were —— Rios Kafelnikov Safin Lendl Johnnymac –

  • catherine bell · April 1, 2016 at 2:58 am

    Scoop-

    I don’t think Steffi cared either.

  • Dan Markowitz · April 1, 2016 at 4:09 am

    Disagree with you on Mac. I think you see in the Seniors how he’ll play to the crowd and the fact he went into announcing after his playing career that he wants to be thought well of. Winning and playing at an exceptionally high level were his main concerns, but he played to entertain to and an entertainer is always aware of his audience.

  • catherine bell · April 1, 2016 at 7:43 am

    Andrew –

    Just saw your comment about Murray ‘having a whole country footing the bill for his pre-Lendl training’.

    Which country ? If you mean Britain most of Murray’s training was not funded by the Lawn Tennis Association.

    So I don’t see your point.

  • Andrew Miller · April 1, 2016 at 9:56 am

    Hey Catherine – that’s true, I was sloppy. His Brad Gilbert funding was entirely paid by the LTA, and apparently he received more funding than any British player. So sure, not completely accurate, but pretty accurate.

    This from a February 2016 article from the Telegraph, “Why credit for Britain’s recent tennis success must go to former LTA boss Roger Draper”

    “Murray has received more central support than any other British player Γ’β‚¬β€œ perhaps any other British sportsman Γ’β‚¬β€œ and rightly so. As the adverts say, heÒ€ℒs worth it.”

  • Scoop Malinowski · April 1, 2016 at 10:24 am

    Johnnymac didn’t care what fans thought of his antics back in his heyday that’s for sure πŸ™‚ He played to win by any means and at any cost –

  • catherine bell · April 1, 2016 at 12:48 pm

    Andrew –

    Yes I saw the Telegraph piece, which BTW I thought was a bit funny because Simon Briggs was one of Draper’s most ferocious critics back in the day -.

    re Murray – I was thinking more of Murray’s early development which was in Spain and not under the LTA’s umbrella.
    Later on, as he became more successful, I’m not sure how much funding Murray needed or received – but as the most prominent British player then he would have got it. Nothing wrong with that I suppose.

  • catherine bell · April 1, 2016 at 12:55 pm

    Scoop –

    I agree with you about Mac. He didn’t care at all – and I saw plenty of his matches and attended plenty of his press ‘conferences’ (read whinings) – he wanted to win.

    Of course in his later years he may interpret his past differently.

  • Scoop Malinowski · April 1, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    At Kyrgios vs Kei tonight the youngsters weren’t a fan presence as they were on grandstand but I did hear a white haired guy in his 60s try a “come on Nick” cheer in the second set – Nick appeals to all ages – I actually saw Nick downtown by the intercontinental hotel and whole foods stopped on foot at a red light holding hands with his friend girl and holding brown whole foods bag wearing shorts tank top and no cap – should have taken photo – boy what a long ride – totally zonked after 30 plus miles in 90 degrees and wind – next time gonna rent a scooter for that ride –

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