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Criticism Unfair: Lamonf was frustrated and disheartened by Djokovic

Netherlands TennisI was at the Djokovic vs Lamonf match US Open semifinal yesterday in Section 122 for the first point to the last and the heavy criticism of the Frenchman’s effort are extremely unwarranted in my opinion – Gael got off to a bad start and it just snowballed – He came into the match on a career best surge but quickly fell behind Djokovic – Djokovic was playing perfect tennis and he Gael just couldn’t do anything about it – Suddenly down two sets to the same guy he has an 0-12 record against caused Gael to feel extreme frustration and anguish – The worst feeling in tennis (and boxing) is to be in a fight you know you can’t win – Archie moore said that about his fight against Cassius Clay – I’m sure that’s what Gael was feeling vs Djokovic yesterday after two sets and then falling down the break 1-2 in the second – The crowd booing Gael and Johnnymac calling the effort “borderline unprofessional” were uncalled for – Gael was suffering the torture of losing yet again to the same guy who has dominated him for his entire career (since their first meeting at the 2005 US Open) – But then suddenly Gael found life and found belief and won four straight games against Djokovic and shockingly won the third set 6-3 – And he had Djokovic on the ropes in the fourth set too before finally succumbing – But Gael showed again that Djokovic is vulnerable still and still not yet back to full throttle and full confidence after the two heartbreaking losses this summer to Querrey at Wimbledon and Del Potro in Rio – Gael is now 0-13 vs Djokovic and the misery and heartbreak continues – I believe all the heavy criticism against Gael by fans and media pundits is very unfair and even ignorant – He gave it his best but was deeply bothered by frustration and disappointment for two sets but to his great credit he managed to surge back into the match in the third set – my girlfriend who was attending the US Open for the first time in her life enjoyed the match greatly despite the heat and expressed desire to come back again –

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  • Andrew Miller · September 10, 2016 at 12:04 pm

    Agree with Gael here and Scoop. But in tennis gotta deal w critics, just the way it is. If champs believe everything said about them, they’d never get out of bed. And Gael still 1 best guys to watch in the game and wil be for years.

  • Dan Markowitz · September 10, 2016 at 1:08 pm

    Monfils lost a lot of my interest and support in him after his dismal performance yesterday. Come on Scoop, you’re saying the guy gave his best when he goes down 0-5 in 15 minutes of the first set? Please, I can’t imagine Mikail Tillstrom is too happy with Monf’s effort.

    If Monf doesn’t have the belief, and he clearly didn’t against Djoko, the only reason he was able to get into the match and take a set is he basically rope-a-doped Djoko into thinking he was dead tired and down and out, and Djoko dropped his level, he shouldn’t make comments like this:

    “Monfils says that one day, he can win a Grand Slam.

    “Yeah, ” Monfils said. “And I will. I’m 100% sure. It’s small details. I’m not that far. I need to fix small details and I will do it.”

    I thought he could win one too, but after yesterday’s performance, I know he can’t win one. He can beat the Pouille’s at least now, and maybe even Nadal now who isn’t part of the Big 4 anymore, neither is Fed, there’s only a Big 3 now, I don’t think Monf can do better than a semis of a slam.

    How can a guy who’s in such great shape as Monf, and owns an apartment in Miami, look like the air was sucked out of him after like an hour of play. I just don’t buy the heat and humidity exhaustion and the way he came out and played those first two sets I think surprised everyone. Courier was calling the match one of the worst he’d ever seen or played in a slam semis.

  • Scoop Malinowski · September 10, 2016 at 1:10 pm

    Gael tried his best and tried to act like he was tanking when he was down 2-5 and it was working as it psyched Djok who started to make errors and choke – Gael was getting killed and had to change it up and acting like he was tanking worked for a bit to get to 4-5 but then Djokovic got it done – His fake tanking worked and fooled everyone and he almost stole the first set – Great match and effort by both in record heat which was 100 degrees on court – Ashe was pretty full too with a lot of fan body heat – Gael fought hard and turned the boos to cheers – Djokovic still looks shaky and fragile as he can’t finish like he did when he was at full throttle at his best – Stan should win the US Open final on sunday

  • Dan markowitz · September 10, 2016 at 2:45 pm

    Djok is still the favorite an I like him to pick up no, 14. What kind of playing strategy is that to act like you’re tanking? Real championship strategy!

  • Andrew Miller · September 10, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    Dan, if Wawrinka pulls off the stunner maybe there really isn’t a big four, in terms of the overall Hall of Fame greats, and only just a big 3 and a significant 2. Djokovic and then Federer and Nadal would be grandfathered into the big 3, and the significant two would be Murray and Wawrinka. Now there’s a big four, but after tomorrow there may not be!

  • Andrew Miller · September 10, 2016 at 3:38 pm

    Dan, as much as I want to say there’s one way to play tennis, there isn’t. How about that Jeopardy champ everyone hated, Arthur Chu. He played in an admittedly frustrating way – winning because he wouldn’t let others play. I’d say guys like Santoro did this as well with his change of pace, spins, other things. I don’t like non effort (one reason I didn’t like what Coric did in the Australian and can’t find it in me to support the guy as a fan). But I think what Monfils did and what Coric did are separate – Coric completely tanked. Monfils got himself together despite a miserable stretch.

  • Thomas Tung · September 10, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    Gael basically threw the first 2 sets in an attempt to surprise Djoker in the 3rd set, but the problem with that kind of play is, you have to make the other guy work harder than you to “win” the sets. Like Dan said, being down love-5 in the 1st set within 15 minutes is hardly doing that.

    It goes back to what I said two days ago: Monfils plays “dumb tennis”, because he tries to play a game that completely doesn’t fit his abilities/skillset. Someone like Simon or even Djokovic can play like that, essentially a “defense in depth” to tire out your opponent, but it requires a lot of nerve and skill (David Ferrer plays more of a, in military parlance, “zone tactical defense”, which is a different entity altogether). Monfils has never had that kind of mental toughness/nerve, and his skillset doesn’t allow him to, “SUSTAIN” a counterattack fast enough. You can’t be content with winning back a set. You need to maintain your momentum (in your breakthrough) and push on into a fifth. Monfils can’t do that.

    I respect that Gael is trying to play that kind of “old-school tennis strategy”, but when you don’t even understand how to use it, why bother? Monfils just makes me shake my head more and more (that is, if I even bother watching him, because he’ll NEVER win a Slam. I stand by that). Gael isn’t getting any younger, and pretty soon, he’ll slow down. Then the wolves will gather, and his lack of sustained defensive skill will do him in, and the drop will be rapid and quick.

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    All that, of course, is even assuming that what I described above was Gael’s plan out there (as he intimated in his remarks), and not just discouraged, desultory play out there (which is also quite possible, even probable).

  • Dan Markowitz · September 10, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    Hey Angelique Kerber just won her second slam of the year and is the No. 1. I’ve got to give her credit. Did anyone really watch the entire match? If so, I want to hear from you. Did you enjoy it? Did the Kerber-Pliskova match up produce any fun enjoyable intense tennis?

    Can’t wait for Djoko-Wawa Round 3 tomorrow. I figure the first salvo was fired by Djoko in 2015 Aussie O when he beat Stan in the semis in 5 sets. Then Wawa showed that he’s pretty much the only player alive who can beat Djoko when he’s firing on all cylinders, beating him in Roland Garros finals in 4 sets in 2015. But do you know this is the sixth time since 2012 they’ve played each other in a slam? And most of these battles have gone 5 sets with Stan winning two of them.

    Also, Stan is two years older than Novak and is only 6-feet tall. I thought Stan was 6-2. Pretty impressive how much power he gets on all his shots only being 72 inches tall.

  • Scoop Malinowski · September 10, 2016 at 10:57 pm

    Gael is not stupid and he does not play stupid tennis – he’s just not good enough to beat Djokovic – he has a lot of company in that regard –

  • Scoop Malinowski · September 10, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    TO be honest I enjoyed the junior boys singles and doubles that I saw all week over todays final which was another typical baseline bashfest – no disrespect to Kerber or Pliskova they both played great tennis today but Pliskova crashed at the end being broken at love at 4-5 in the third –

  • catherine bell · September 11, 2016 at 4:05 am

    Are you being a bit sarcastic Dan re women’s final ? 🙂

    I couldn’t watch the match live but plenty of people seemed to find it exciting/enjoyable/entertaining and that’s basically what we want from sport isn’t it ?

    I expect you’ll hear more from those who did see it.

  • Hartt · September 11, 2016 at 8:12 am

    I thoroughly enjoyed the match. It gave us a good contrast of styles with the hard serving of Pliskova vs. the excellent defense of Kerber. But it was not just a lot of baseline bashing. Pliskova went to the net often and was surprisingly successful there. Her volleys are not things of beauty but they were effective.

    Kerber had some terrific down the line FHs. One, in particular, was a very gutsy shot at a big moment. It was just barely in and was a key to her winning the match.

    It was a close, entertaining match with no clear winner until the very end. Angie, in particular, showed a lot of mental toughness.

    Pliskova is an all or nothing type of player and I’m not sure how she will fare over the coming months. If she can continue to play like she did in Cincy and at the USO it will be a lot of fun to watch her.

    I prefer aggressive players to defensive ones, but Kerber made a concerted effort to play more aggressively this season and has found a good balance between defense and offense. I enjoy her game now and look forward to her future matches.

  • catherine bell · September 11, 2016 at 8:38 am

    Hartt –

    Pliskova won 23 out of 28 net approaches – maybe others can emulate that tactic ?

    Her volleys are more like what we used to call drive volleys – but as you say, effective – aggressively struck. Had Kerber baffled a few times.

    Also I was interested to hear Kerber has employed a mental coach this past year – Simona might think about that 🙂

    BTW (as you may know) – Radwanska’s FB post was a joke – it’s her coach who was getting married. R next year. 🙂

  • Scoop Malinowski · September 11, 2016 at 9:05 am

    Kerber is the best in the world – to take that from Serena is an incredible feat – Well done very very well done – Pliskova can win GSs – let’s see where she goes now – can be a Bouchard or a Venus who did not win her first GS final –

  • Hartt · September 11, 2016 at 9:06 am

    No, I did not know about the Aga post being a joke. Was taken in by Caro saying Aga was getting married. Just too gullible!

  • catherine bell · September 11, 2016 at 9:36 am

    Hartt-

    Not gullible- no reason you shouldn’t believe it since R has announced (eventual) wedding plans before.

    But honestly – sometimes these women behave as though they’re still in high school – I blame social media 🙂

  • Scoop Malinowski · September 11, 2016 at 9:36 am

    Clever pressure move by Aga to pressure her boyfriend maybe 🙂

  • Dan Markowitz · September 11, 2016 at 9:37 am

    Catherine,

    I wasn’t being sarcastic when I said I didn’t watch much of the women’s finals. What I did watch, I got into the match because of the setting and Kerber-Pliskova was a good styles’ match up, but both players, their games and their personalities, do not intrigue me much.

    There was a boxing match going on in London involving this boxer Triple G, Golovkin, and I’ve heard he’s the best fighter in the world today pound for pound, so I watched that instead. It wasn’t a terrible good boxing match, but no I don’t find Kerber a terribly good or interesting player. Keys is impressive, but just a blaster along with Girogi and otherwise I’d say maybe Sands is my favorite female player with Suarez.

  • Scoop Malinowski · September 11, 2016 at 9:59 am

    Golovkin is the best fighter in the sport today Dan and Kell Brook was his toughest fight – Brook has been avoided like Golovkin has and he would beat Canelo Alvarez and all the top welterweights and a lot of the top middleweights – that was an excellent fight at a sold out O2 Arena in London – hope you liked it –

  • catherine bell · September 11, 2016 at 10:00 am

    Dan –

    Yes I understand your feelings about women’s final. I’m not enamoured of either player and the baseline style puts me into a deep sleep – luckily I don’t have to write about it.
    Kerber is ok but I can’t see her for a long reign at the top.

    That boxing match ended badly for the guy who nearly had his eye put out – fortunately the towel was thrown in. Maybe that could be an option in tennis ?

  • Dan Markowitz · September 11, 2016 at 1:50 pm

    I didn’t think Golovkin was so impressive though. They say he might’ve been sick. Golovkin himself said he only rated himself a 3 or 4. Brook looked good and tough, but he clearly didn’t want to mix it up with Golovkin.

    My inexperienced eye says Golovkin would’ve gotten destroyed by a Sugar Ray Leonard or a Marvin Hagler/Tommy Hearns.

  • Scoop Malinowski · September 11, 2016 at 4:14 pm

    As great as they were Hearns Hagler and Leonard did not scare away any top challengers like Golovkin has for over two years now – It’s ridiculous how avoided and how many excuses the top threats have used to duck a title shot vs Golovkin – Yes last night was not his finest most perfect win but it was still an impressive stoppage win over a very dangerous skilled welterweight champ who has also been avoided and actually weighed more than Golovkin did last night – Kell Brook tried for the upset win and gave it his best but he realized his best was not enough to beat Golovkin and soon after that his corner saved him from the brutal KO loss which would have greatly devalued his career and sellability –

  • Hartt · September 11, 2016 at 4:58 pm

    Felix Auger-Aliassime won the boys’ singles final in SS. 6-3, 6-0 against Serbian player M. Kecmanovic.

  • Scoop Malinowski · September 11, 2016 at 7:16 pm

    And Felix is not even close to his full potential- not even clooooooossse –

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